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Starting a new job in CH remotely

A friend of mine is supposed to start a new job in Switzerland in November...however, he's anxious and not feeling comfortable relocating from abroad for now, due to the 2nd wave which looks more and more likely, but also due to family reasons.

He'd like to ask the company to let him work remotely the first few months, and eventually move in 2021, after this mess is over. In any case most of the work for the first few months will probably be remote, since his new company strongly supports working from home for now.

It should be legally possible to employ him temporarly through a subsidiary in my friend's home country.

However he also doesn't want to "rock the boat" or look unreliable...how would you approach the company?
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Old 25.09.2020, 14:28
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Re: Starting a new job in CH remotely

They will not be able to pay him without a residency permit. So he needs an address and a rental contract at the very least.

He will of course be able to work from his new home, most likely, and the employer may allow him to return to where he came from and work from there - he should check with them.
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They will not be able to pay him without a residency permit. So he needs an address and a rental contract at the very least.

He will of course be able to work from his new home, most likely, and the employer may allow him to return to where he came from and work from there - he should check with them.
This is nonsense. Plenty of Swiss companies probably have people working remotely for them and they wouldn't need a Swiss residence permit since they don't live here.

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Old 25.09.2020, 15:16
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Re: Starting a new job in CH remotely

I would say this depends on the contract and the company. I know many companies who won't do this.
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Old 26.09.2020, 18:49
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Re: Starting a new job in CH remotely

Well funny how many people seem to think "oh awesome I can work from anywhere", not realizing that this also means there's zero reason to then be paid a Swiss (or some other high-income country) salary either, or that your job needs to be here at all for that matter.

Beyond that, frankly, not sure how I would react if I hired someone who now wants to not move for "a few months" (what's that mean, One? Six? Open-ended?) due to some "fear of a second wave" or whatever family issues it may be. He took the job and he knew it was in Switzerland... Is it possible - depending on the job probably yes. We've done it occasionally though mainly for temporary immigration restrictions or at least hassles - once these went away, people were asked to move and show up. I also have a friend who moved here and started a job at a new company one day before lockdown began and it was a huge issue to onboard him meaningfully.

So needless to say there's zero obligation on the part of the employer to agree to this, especially since by and large, things in Switzerland are normal with limited paranoia and that also means the majority of people actually go to the office at the very least some of the time. If that's an expectation from this company, then tough luck. So I guess no option then to simply ask. Would probably lead with the family issues though...
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I would say this depends on the contract and the company. I know many companies who won't do this.
Really and how many would that be? one, two or may be three?????
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Re: Starting a new job in CH remotely

A friend of mine was hired to work for a large company on the Rhein in North Basel. He was on a US contract, lived and worked mostly in France and worked a couple of days a week on ca.. ..er in Basel. No work permit. So I guess anything is possible.


Probably not a very good start for the OP, however, I know people who have started new jobs this year and so far have never been to the office but that's only because of the current tax dispensation where everyone pretends things are as they should be. Currently I think this is due to run out at the end of the year but it might be extended.


It's wrong to give the impression that anyone can easily work from anywhere on a Swiss employment contract.
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Really and how many would that be? one, two or may be three?????
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A friend of mine was hired to work for a large company on the Rhein in North Basel. He was on a US contract , lived and worked mostly in France and worked a couple of days a week on ca.. ..er in Basel. No work permit. So I guess anything is possible.
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Re: Starting a new job in CH remotely

Remote options are still a rarity in Switzerland, unfortunately. Companies here are very conservative in that matter, and sometimes it's very hard to convince the management that something like that could be a valuable option. Same as requirement of a uni degree, in most cases you can't skip it, and you have to have it.
Screening for full remote options on job boards do not instill optimism as well...
For example:
SwissDevJobs.ch → only 18 available positions right now, so yeah.
The same Thing on LinkedIn

But hey, in today's world, where everything seems to be changing pretty drastically, because of all that pandemic situation, even that is moving in the right direction, slowly, but it's shifting. I know personally a couple of people who works that way, so it is possible!
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But hey, in today's world, where everything seems to be changing pretty drastically, because of all that pandemic situation, even that is moving in the right direction, slowly, but it's shifting. I know personally a couple of people who works that way, so it is possible!
I think that will mean more voluntary home office or more flexible working times, but not a lot more fully remote jobs. There aren't many jobs that aren't negatively impacted by never ever being at the office, and the cultural obstacles are large.

IME except for some high-end programmer jobs, there isn't much.
For simpler stuff, if you can do fully remote then you can often also outsource it to another business in a cheaper country and simplify your system.
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Re: Starting a new job in CH remotely

Ofc it is possible but the company must be willing to start cooperating with you on a business-to-business terms or hiring you in your current country then move you to Switzerland once you're ready to do it. If only the Swiss contract is on the table you may as well come here to register for a G permit, this permit is not only for those who live close to the border but anyone from EU who can prove that they commute to work in Switzerland.

For all the frustrated EF members (at least some of you appear to be), it does happen, but it's up to the company how fair/flexible and committed they are. I started my first Swiss job living for a few months in my home country, earning the Swiss salary and doing nothing basically due to some legal rules.

Now I'm living in Switzerland and work in the Silicon Valley, go figure

OP, you won't get any answer (anyway, looking at the post date it won't help you anymore) as it's really on case-by-case basis, some companies will say firm no and rise a red flag to be there forever, some will say no in general but when you contact them they open up, also you may encounter a classic problem with bureaucracy where the company will say NO, but your hiring manager would be OK with it. Talk with you hiring manager first and hope he/she would be willing to poke the morons from the HR, etc, to accept your terms.

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