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Professional and private life in CH

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Not a long time ago I moved to Switzerland, I worked for different companies here and I noted (probably wrongly) that here private and professional life seem not separate at all and work colleagues try to immediately become your friend ask very direct question on private life, political view etc. A friendship can of course come on later stages but only if I really like and trust the person. Never before. This doesn't mean that I do not have to be friendly have some small talk etc. but become friend is a different things.
Do you also experience the same, or I am getting this wrong?
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Wow- how sad- they just can't win, those Swiss, can they? Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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Re: Professional and private life in CH

Welcome to the Forum?

I think it very much depends on where you work, the type of work you do, and the composition of the workforce as to what you experience in terms of work friendships/relationships. Maybe people are trying to make small talk and get to know you.

I'm American and from Colorado. The first thing people ask me once they learn that info is whether I like Trump and whether I smoke marijuana.
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Re: Professional and private life in CH

I talk with my colleagues about family, politics and stuff. But while were on friendly terms, we're not friends as such. If any of us move on, we'd probably not keep in touch.

I know our American colleagues were amazed that we discussed politics.
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Not my experience at all, if anything more often the opposite. Maybe it depends on your work area, but I found that in professional/scientific circles most people were fiercely protective of their work/private life separation.
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Hi all
Not a long time ago I moved to Switzerland, I worked for different companies here and I noted (probably wrongly) that here private and professional life seem not separate at all and work colleagues try to immediately become your friend ask very direct question on private life, political view etc. A friendship can of course come on later stages but only if I really like and trust the person. Never before. This doesn't mean that I do not have to be friendly have some small talk etc. but become friend is a different things.
Do you also experience the same, or I am getting this wrong?
Very unusual, they have an ulterior motive. I worked for a company for over 10 years, there was only 1 Christmas party the first year, when a new MD was British, he got fired & it never happened again.
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Are you sure they are Swiss? Or at least Swiss of origin?
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Welcome to the Forum?

I think it very much depends on where you work, the type of work you do, and the composition of the workforce as to what you experience in terms of work friendships/relationships. Maybe people are trying to make small talk and get to know you.

I'm American and from Colorado. The first thing people ask me once they learn that info is whether I like Trump and whether I smoke marijuana.

Hello 3Wishes. Pleased to meet you. And your answers?


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Do you also experience the same, or I am getting this wrong?
Total rubbish.

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Re: Professional and private life in CH

I have friends from work who are great in private life, but I hate working with.

30 years on, we are still friends in private life.

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The first thing people ask me once they learn that info is whether I like Trump and whether I smoke marijuana.
Do you?

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Lol.

OP - do you work in a bank? Is there a heavy team building spirit going on? Are you new and people are overdoing the "he's new, let's make him really comfortable"? Do you have a cute accent or a really nice car?

Ok, I am just curious because it tends to be the opposite and it is one of the things I really like about here. People's personal life is their own thing, they let you share how much you feel like. In the US, on the other hand..
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Re: Professional and private life in CH

I think that discussing politics and/or religion at work can easily become messy.

Maybe your work mates are just trying to be friendly and make chit chat, which is fine, I think. But turn your filters on in regard to what you choose to reveal about yourself. And if you have any social media pages, make them private and be very careful about who you accept as friends, etc.. We're living in an era now where people are eagerly divulging so much about their personal lives and their opinions and ideologies, etc. all over the internet and failing to value their privacy in the meantime.
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Wow- how sad- they just can't win, those Swiss, can they? Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Or perhaps people shouldn't pigeonhole them into particular behaviour patterns - one way, or the other.

They're a mixed bunch - just like in most other countries.
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Re: Professional and private life in CH

For sure
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I think that discussing politics and/or religion at work can easily become messy.

Maybe your work mates are just trying to be friendly and make chit chat, which is fine, I think. But turn your filters on in regard to what you choose to reveal about yourself. And if you have any social media pages, make them private and be very careful about who you accept as friends, etc.. We're living in an era now where people are eagerly divulging so much about their personal lives and their opinions and ideologies, etc. all over the internet and failing to value their privacy in the meantime.
That is why remote work is becoming so relevant? No need for coffee break, no need to sai hi to anyone. No need to leave my computer to make private phone calls.

These are the swiss i know. And......the most funny

Using internet for private reasons...oh no....but smoking every 15 min is ok.

I blended very well. Started to smoke every 5.

PS; I do not smoke but seems to be trendy in switzerland
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That is why remote work is becoming so relevant? No need for coffee break, no need to sai hi to anyone. No need to leave my computer to make private phone calls.

These are the swiss i know. And......the most funny

Using internet for private reasons...oh no....but smoking every 15 min is ok.

I blended very well. Started to smoke every 5.

PS; I do not smoke but seems to be trendy in switzerland
Well, I've made some wonderful friends through work before. But until you get to know someone, I think it's wise to keep your filters on. And whether or not they're Swiss is irrelevant. I know someone in the States who was bullied and then fired from his job because he's not a Trump supporter.
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Re: Professional and private life in CH

Are you working mainly amongst other expats? While it is good to keep your guard up initially at work, very often expats are trying to build a community in their new country and it is easier to meet people at work.
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I wanted to ask - where do you find people to socialise with when you're newly arrived in a place? Work was always a good place to start. I don't know if all people want to keep these two separated, definitely not OH and me. However, we've also made friends among neighbours (the best) and people we met at language courses, through hobbies, other parents in our kids kindergarten/school etc. You have to have something in common.
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