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18.10.2020, 10:45
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Good Day,
I came to Switzerland on June 26, 2017 and was working on L and now on B permit.
I am afraid that my contract it might not be extended beyond 2020.
Could somebody advice me what to do to get unemployment benefits?
I am living in Canton Schwyz.
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18.10.2020, 10:52
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| | Re: Unemployment Benefits | Quote: | |  | | | Good Day,
I came to Switzerland on June 26, 2017 and was working on L and now on B permit.
I am afraid that my contract it might not be extended beyond 2020.
Could somebody advice me what to do to get unemployment benefits?
I am living in Canton Schwyz. | | | | | https://www.sz.ch/privatpersonen/arb...2-485-478-1861
I bet it took me less time searching for this then for you to post your question.
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31.10.2020, 13:59
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Hi!
I have received notice that my contract will end on December 20, the same day when my L permit expires.
I will have worked in Switzerland for 15 months when this happens.
Would anyone know if I can apply for unemployment without a valid residence permit? Or is it possible to get some other residence permit with the understanding that I am unemployed? I am an EU citizen.
Thanks!
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31.10.2020, 17:40
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| | Re: Unemployment Benefits | Quote: | |  | | | Hi!
I have received notice that my contract will end on December 20, the same day when my L permit expires.
I will have worked in Switzerland for 15 months when this happens.
Would anyone know if I can apply for unemployment without a valid residence permit? Or is it possible to get some other residence permit with the understanding that I am unemployed? I am an EU citizen.
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Profile says otherwise so are you dual nationality? If not, then I'm afraid that's it as you are probably here on a tied to employer permit and it's unlikely that an L permit non-EU national will be able to claim unemployment. You may be able to stay to job hunt according to this, but I think that may depend on whether you have the funds to do so. I'm also not sure if that just applies to EU nationals or all foreigners. https://www.ch.ch/en/foreign-nationa...d-switzerland/ | 
31.10.2020, 18:11
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Hi!
Thanks for the reply!
I entered Switzerland on a French passport so I guess I am an EU citizen.
It appears that I might be able to remain up to 6 months here and be on unemployment if necessary.
Would that be your understanding.
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31.10.2020, 18:52
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| | Re: Unemployment Benefits | Quote: | |  | | | Hi!
Thanks for the reply!
I entered Switzerland on a French passport so I guess I am an EU citizen.
It appears that I might be able to remain up to 6 months here and be on unemployment if necessary.
Would that be your understanding. | | | | | You'd need to talk to the cantonal migration office and RAV to be sure.
"However, you will need to obtain authorisation from the cantonal immigration or labour market authorities."
As an EU national you can be here for up to 3 months as a tourist anyway assuming you have the funds to support yourself, but you wouldn't be getting any unemployment in that scenario I think.
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31.10.2020, 19:01
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| | Re: Unemployment Benefits | Quote: | |  | | | It appears that I might be able to remain up to 6 months here and be on unemployment if necessary. | | | | |
- Not unless you qualify for Swiss benefits under the normal rules
- You were unemployed in another EU/EEA state and transferred here to seek work, in which case you may receive three months benefits from that state.
- Your contributions in an EU/EEA state combined with your Swiss contributions qualify you for Swiss benefits
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31.10.2020, 19:57
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I asked a similar question some time ago and the answer was "no benefits". See https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...-l-permit.html | The following 2 users would like to thank mmartins for this useful post: | | 
31.10.2020, 21:33
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| | Re: Unemployment Benefits | Quote: | |  | | | Hi!
Thanks for the reply!
I entered Switzerland on a French passport so I guess I am an EU citizen.
It appears that I might be able to remain up to 6 months here and be on unemployment if necessary.
Would that be your understanding. | | | | | As an EU citizen with an EU-L permit:
"Holder of a short-term residence permit L and the employment ends or is involuntarily terminated:
Further stay in Switzerland for the purpose of job search is permitted for 6 months, provided that sufficient financial means are available. If no new job could be found within these 6 months, the right of residence expires after these 6 months. (Art. 61a para. 1 AIG).
During this period there is no entitlement to social assistance (Art. 61a para. 3 AIG). If the person concerned can claim unemployment benefit for longer than the aforementioned 6 months, the right of residence expires when the compensation payments cease (Art. 61a para. 2 AIG).
Important: If the permit or identity card expires during the above-mentioned periods, an application for a permit extension must be submitted."
German text is at this link, p. 2: https://www.ag.ch/media/kanton_aarga...illigung~1.pdf | The following 2 users would like to thank Mullhollander for this useful post: | | 
01.11.2020, 17:59
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Thank you all for your help!
I have already worked for more than a year in Switzerland, but my L permit expires when my contract ends in late December.
It seems that I could stay and look for a job for 6 months following the end of the contract, but that I would have to get the L permit renewed in order to possibly receive UI benefits.
And the only way to get an L permit is to have an employer who will hire me. And of course if I have an employer hire me, I will no longer be unemployed.
It seems a bit like a Catch 22.
I hope that I never need this help.
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01.11.2020, 19:46
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| | Re: Unemployment Benefits | Quote: | |  | | | Thank you all for your help!
I have already worked for more than a year in Switzerland, but my L permit expires when my contract ends in late December.
It seems that I could stay and look for a job for 6 months following the end of the contract, but that I would have to get the L permit renewed in order to possibly receive UI benefits.
And the only way to get an L permit is to have an employer who will hire me. And of course if I have an employer hire me, I will no longer be unemployed.
It seems a bit like a Catch 22.
I hope that I never need this help. | | | | |
My suggestion is to register with RAV this month while you still have a valid EU-L permit. RAV then becomes your new "employer" as of 21 December and RAV will normally also report your employment status to the Migrationsamt. You should also indicate to the Migrationsamt when you apply for a new EU-L permit that you are registered with RAV. The Migrationsamt should then approve a new EU-L permit until the end of your unemployment compensation period.
For information on how long you can draw RAV unemployment compensation, please see FAQ 7 at this link (English): https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/en/...edien/faq.html
Please note that the Taggelder are work-days so multiply by 7/5 for calendar days, e.g., 260 Taggelder x 7/5 = 364 calendar days (i.e., one year).
Good luck!
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02.11.2020, 22:58
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Thanks a lot!
I will check this out.
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02.11.2020, 23:10
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Thank god for Mullhollander!
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05.11.2020, 15:58
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I'm a bit confused how an EU citizen could have problems getting B permit?
ASAIK EU citizen can just declare having enough funds to be self sufficient to renew hers/his permit B.
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05.11.2020, 16:04
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| | Re: Unemployment Benefits | Quote: | |  | | | I'm a bit confused how an EU citizen could have problems getting B permit? 
ASAIK EU citizen can just declare having enough funds to be self sufficient to renew hers/his permit B. | | | | | Which may or may not be granted depending on whether your definition of sufficient funds matches the canton's. | This user would like to thank Medea Fleecestealer for this useful post: | | 
05.11.2020, 16:05
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| | Re: Unemployment Benefits | Quote: | |  | | | I'm a bit confused how an EU citizen could have problems getting B permit? 
ASAIK EU citizen can just declare having enough funds to be self sufficient to renew hers/his permit B. | | | | | Yes, however your view of sufficient funds, might be different the authorities view by a factor of 5 to 10.
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05.11.2020, 16:08
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| | Re: Unemployment Benefits | Quote: | |  | | | My suggestion is to register with RAV this month while you still have a valid EU-L permit. RAV then becomes your new "employer" as of 21 December and RAV will normally also report your employment status to the Migrationsamt. You should also indicate to the Migrationsamt when you apply for a new EU-L permit that you are registered with RAV. The Migrationsamt should then approve a new EU-L permit until the end of your unemployment compensation period.
For information on how long you can draw RAV unemployment compensation, please see FAQ 7 at this link (English): https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/en/...edien/faq.html
Please note that the Taggelder are work-days so multiply by 7/5 for calendar days, e.g., 260 Taggelder x 7/5 = 364 calendar days (i.e., one year).
Good luck! | | | | | Are you sure this is possible? After all - he is still employed at the moment. What is the basis of his registration with RAV?
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05.11.2020, 16:36
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You should register with RAV the moment you receive the termination notification. They will also check if termination has been done in line with the local regulations and advise on next steps.
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05.11.2020, 16:37
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| | Re: Unemployment Benefits | Quote: | |  | | | Are you sure this is possible? After all - he is still employed at the moment. What is the basis of his registration with RAV? | | | | | Been there... When you know you're going to loose your job soon you should register
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