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Old 28.10.2020, 15:01
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Re: Got a pay rise yesterday and now my job no longer exists

Hit the organising and battle plan for this quite hard this morning, spoke to a few people, mapped it all out with action points.

Person assigned from HR has tentatively accepted a meeting with me for tomorrow morning.

Shed a few tears this morning, not for me but my boss who is has worked there for 24 years & only a few years off possibility for early retirement. She did not sleep and I can understand why, besides her two cats this company has been her life and works nights, days and weekends for it.

I am 90% confident she will get one of the new roles but to be blindsided like that without any courtesy is not nice.

One of my colleagues who went through similar two years ago is confident that two of the consulting firms working inside my current company would be interested in hiring me, so a good connection to have.
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Old 28.10.2020, 15:08
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I thought they look at your last year's income so surely this wouldn't have taken effect yet?
It's the previous 24 months, as you need 12 months insured employment in any 24 month period preceding a claim to qualify for RAV/ORP.

The max insurable amount is 126k, as if above this your ALV* amount is lower on your payslip. (see your payslip)

*unemployment insurance
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Old 28.10.2020, 15:14
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It's the previous 24 months, as you need 12 months insured employment in any 24 month period preceding a claim to qualify for RAV/ORP.

The max insurable amount is 126k, as if above this your ALV* amount is lower on your payslip. (see your payslip)

*unemployment insurance
If I end up finishing up, I will have worked for this company for 8 years and 13 years in total since being in Switzerland. (paying contributions)
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It's the previous 24 months, as you need 12 months insured employment in any 24 month period preceding a claim to qualify for RAV/ORP.

The max insurable amount is 126k, as if above this your ALV* amount is lower on your payslip. (see your payslip)

*unemployment insurance



Probably best to google it. All the official info is out there if you try hard enough.
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Old 28.10.2020, 16:10
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It's the previous 24 months, as you need 12 months insured employment in any 24 month period preceding a claim to qualify for RAV/ORP.

The max insurable amount is 126k, as if above this your ALV* amount is lower on your payslip. (see your payslip)

*unemployment insurance
I thought it had gone up a bit recently. 145k or so?
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Old 28.10.2020, 16:18
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I thought it had gone up a bit recently. 145k or so?

Correct, 148k I think?
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Re: Got a pay rise yesterday and now my job no longer exists

It is definitely 148k which means a single person gets a minimum of 105k if he has no job
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It is definitely 148k which means a single person gets a minimum of 105k if he has no job

maximum?
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It is definitely 148k which means a single person gets a minimum of 105k if he has no job
I wonder if you realise that many, many people in Switzerland don't earn anywhere near that figure.
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Any update?
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Old 11.11.2020, 15:58
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Any update?
Indeed there is; I applied for one of the new roles & I expect to have two interviews next week. Final announcements for the new roles will be at the latest 4th December, so not too long to wait.

Updating my CV was interesting as I had not seen it in 8 years

Currently doing the Knowledge Transfer to someone else who will take over that role.

Other than that I view this that whatever happens I am a winner

Just need to keep dodging the meteor shower of inbound work now that people know that I am leaving that role.
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Old 03.12.2020, 15:25
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Re: Got a pay rise yesterday and now my job no longer exists

I have been a bit quiet of late as I have been studying and also full on Knowledge Transfer to the person taking over my role, it is like having another full time job

Anyway I did not get the role as a more suitable candidate was selected.

HR was on the call and so now I need to register with the homage here, I believe tomorrow even though my end date is the 31st March 2021.

Have been given the rest of the day off so went for a walk by the river just to enjoy nature

There is some kind of compensation package that I get two months after leaving but have to sign some confidentiality NDA document etc.

There is two signed type of online documents I need to deal with, 1 in the next 2 days (guess that is for tomorrow) & one within 7 days.

One of the package is 3 months with a professional firm that helps to get you a job and the choice is mine as to when to start to use them.

Looking for fellow EF'rs to help guide me on this path, my plan is to get a job starting in April so few questions, excuse if some of them are dumb but I am mind mapping and trying to put my action plan together today.

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1. From what I have read I have to start applying for jobs straight away, is that correct?
2. I think I can register online for Chomage due to covid?
3. Based on wanting a job 1st April 2021 when should I seek the assistance from the outsourced agency, now, Jan or, appreciate feedback? (I am thinking now to get my CV and all my stuff squared off as in Jan jobs become more abundant)
4. I planned holiday during the year and booked flights already but assume that is okay with Chomage if I get to that point?
5. I have 4 weeks holiday that HR have asked me to take before I leave so plan one week New Year as I have my Children for that week and take last 3 weeks of March, thoughts?

Thanks for help from everyone; I am kind of sad a bit as I studied my ass off but I am going to embrace the challenge.

Just an added bit of info my landlord accepted a move out date of 31st March 2021 too as I need to save on my budget too.
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Old 04.12.2020, 01:31
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Re: Got a pay rise yesterday and now my job no longer exists

Answering my own post here, quite sad but maybe someone searching in the future might take something positive from it so:

Will call the RAV/Chomage and or even attend tomorrow, sure they will advise, hence I will tell me when I need to start applying for jobs etc.

Be proactive not reactive

Going to start with the outsourced help in order to help me find my next job immediately as more jobs come onto the market in January and generally need to get my crap together, so now is the time to start. Certainly I need help with my CV and also spruce up rubbish like Linkedin profile and stuff like that.

Otherwise life goes on and honestly despite dealing with the tail end of a divorce, having to move apartment and find a new job at the same time I believe I will laugh at this in a years time
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1. From what I have read I have to start applying for jobs straight away, is that correct?
2. I think I can register online for Chomage due to covid?
4. I planned holiday during the year and booked flights already but assume that is okay with Chomage if I get to that point?
1. yes, usually you have to demonstrate job searches for the 3 months prior end of contract
2. depends on the canton but probably
4. only after 60 days on chomage you have a right to 5 consecutive days, so that could be a problem, but you better discuss this with them and depends when the vacations are booked
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Old 04.12.2020, 07:58
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1. yes, usually you have to demonstrate job searches for the 3 months prior end of contract
2. depends on the canton but probably
4. only after 60 days on chomage you have a right to 5 consecutive days, so that could be a problem, but you better discuss this with them and depends when the vacations are booked
My plan is obviously to get a permanent role if possible but also I am more than happy to go back to freelance which maybe easier for me.
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Sorry to hear Magic. My only advice, no matter what, do not stress yourself.
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Re: Got a pay rise yesterday and now my job no longer exists

Wow I'm really sorry to hear about your redundancy and subsequent issues. Especially after having gone through a divorce... that really stings. But chin up, I really hope something comes your way sooner or later. Indeed start applying, consulting work can tie you over if you can find some in the meantime. Many companies prefer consultants nowadays rather than hiring in-house from what I see. My recommendation is to keep your holiday, I'm sure you deserve it after such a crappy year. I'm always amazed at how much men have to fork out after a divorce in Switzerland, so I really feel for you. I am sure, though, that there has to be some silver lining somewhere... in the meantime take it easy and look after yourself!
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I wonder if you realise that many, many people in Switzerland don't earn anywhere near that figure.
It really isn't that much, as he will have to pay child support for 2 kids, peobably spousal as well. Not to mention the fact that he has another kid at home and having depleted funds from his divorce..
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Re: Got a pay rise yesterday and now my job no longer exists

I am sorry to hear you lost your job. Here is my piece of advice about RAV.

1. If your last day is 31.03.2021 and you will be on the RAV starting 01.04.2021 you should be able demonstrate to RAV that you have been making 10-12 applications each month from 3 months prior to that. So, Jan, Feb, March, at least 10 applications each.

2. You accrue holidays on RAV. Say 2 days each month (not sure how many at your age). If you take a holiday for 2 weeks before you have accrued enough, they will deduct it from your pay. Your advisor will very likely ask you if you have planned any holidays and if you say yes, it will be deducted. I don't think they will accept the excuse that they were booked before you knew you would be unemployed.
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Hi magic,

I am really sorry to hear what happened to you, and while I don't have answers, I just wanted to commend you on your positive and forward looking attitude (which not many could do!) and I believe this will definitely help you find a great new role - like you say, you can smile back at this time one day!

I was made redundant last year - and while I sadly saw many colleagues off this path, it really hit me when it happened to myself. A few days of sadness and anger (as I had gotten a REALLY good performance review) - and picked myself up again. Went through 44 internal and external "meetings" and interviews in 2 months. Then summer holiday season started and zero progress. And - just 2 weeks before my notice period would end, I found a new role within the company and get what? I am the happiest I have been with my new team and boss! Silver lining huh? My ex-boss did feel terrible having had to do this and to this day we have a good relationship.

So, am sure you'll work your "magic"!! Good luck and am cheering for you!

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Answering my own post here, quite sad but maybe someone searching in the future might take something positive from it so:

Will call the RAV/Chomage and or even attend tomorrow, sure they will advise, hence I will tell me when I need to start applying for jobs etc.

Be proactive not reactive

Going to start with the outsourced help in order to help me find my next job immediately as more jobs come onto the market in January and generally need to get my crap together, so now is the time to start. Certainly I need help with my CV and also spruce up rubbish like Linkedin profile and stuff like that.

Otherwise life goes on and honestly despite dealing with the tail end of a divorce, having to move apartment and find a new job at the same time I believe I will laugh at this in a years time
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