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Old 27.10.2020, 21:24
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Got a pay rise yesterday and now my job no longer exists

Yesterday my boss called me and told me that I got a small pay rise for my excellent work We had a nice chat and managed to get an agreement to postpone 5 extra days holiday to next year as I will be 60 and want to take off two weeks during that time...

Today I was in a must attend meeting to hear that mine and six other peoples roles no longer exist including my boss so even she did not know about this

There are four new roles of which we can apply for one or more of them.

Wish me luck as I think I have a 50/50 chance on one of them but might apply for another role just for the interview experience too ... If I pull this off it would be amazing given my age

Roll off time is a bit vague but the new structure comes into effect 1st Jan 2021 ..

Just another of life's challenges presented itself ...
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Old 27.10.2020, 21:29
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Good luck, crossing my fingers for you!
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Classy organization. Good luck!
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Hope it works out for you magic!
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Life is like a roller coaster, it has its ups and downs. Next will be UP!
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Old 27.10.2020, 23:06
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We had a nice chat and managed to get an agreement to postpone 5 extra days holiday to next year as I will be 60 and want to take off two weeks during that time...
Sheesh. How mean are they with their holidays? That sounds like US holiday allowance. Or did you mean two months?
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Re: Got a pay rise yesterday and now my job no longer exists

Is there anything the op can do given a pay rise for good work and redundancy in another ?

Or no rights at all
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Re: Got a pay rise yesterday and now my job no longer exists

He wrote 5 *extra* days so I would assume this means in addition to normal vacation allowance.


No rights other than what's in the contract or implied through statutory rules.


Your age shouldn't have much to do with it unless you're admitting it's affecting your work or you think the financial aspects would sway their decision.


How about early retirement? I know a few people who were worried about losing their job but when they did the calculations realised that they could get by on early retirement and have said it was the best thing they ever did. Go the the RAV for two years or so as you get repeatedly rejected for hobs for being too old.



Losing your job isn't the end of the world. You might come down with a terminal illness. What use is the money then?
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Got a pay rise yesterday and now my job no longer exists

And isn't it ironic, don't you think?

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Yesterday my boss called me and told me that I got a small pay rise for my excellent work We had a nice chat and managed to get an agreement to postpone 5 extra days holiday to next year as I will be 60 and want to take off two weeks during that time...

Today I was in a must attend meeting to hear that mine and six other peoples roles no longer exist including my boss so even she did not know about this

There are four new roles of which we can apply for one or more of them.

Wish me luck as I think I have a 50/50 chance on one of them but might apply for another role just for the interview experience too ... If I pull this off it would be amazing given my age

Roll off time is a bit vague but the new structure comes into effect 1st Jan 2021 ..

Just another of life's challenges presented itself ...
Good luck! It's a bit dysfuctional but frankly a lot of comapnies are expriencing unprecedented choas externally which manifests in such incredible management behaviors.
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Thatis tough,, I am so sorry. Bonne chance.
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Old 28.10.2020, 01:33
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Sheesh. How mean are they with their holidays? That sounds like US holiday allowance. Or did you mean two months?
Normally you are allowed to carry over 5 unused day to the following year, otherwise you lose them. Basically I was granted to carry over an additional 5 so 10 in total.
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Old 28.10.2020, 01:37
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He wrote 5 *extra* days so I would assume this means in addition to normal vacation allowance.


No rights other than what's in the contract or implied through statutory rules.


Your age shouldn't have much to do with it unless you're admitting it's affecting your work or you think the financial aspects would sway their decision.


How about early retirement? I know a few people who were worried about losing their job but when they did the calculations realised that they could get by on early retirement and have said it was the best thing they ever did. Go the the RAV for two years or so as you get repeatedly rejected for hobs for being too old.



Losing your job isn't the end of the world. You might come down with a terminal illness. What use is the money then?

Age doesn't affect my ability to do the job but it does affect the cost I represent to the company.

Not possible to do early retirement as a 7.5 year divorce has left me decimated financially, in addition I still need to contribute for my teenage children.

Agree about the health, honestly in some respects, this will all pass, given a choice I would pick my health.
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Wish you good luck! Fingers are crossed. There are thinks in the life that we can't control! Heads up and move on!
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Is the new pay level what the RAV will base their payments on?
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Is the new pay level what the RAV will base their payments on?

I thought they look at your last year's income so surely this wouldn't have taken effect yet?
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Re: Got a pay rise yesterday and now my job no longer exists

The rav covers salary up to 150K which means a single person should get 70% of that. That means 100K which I think is pretty sweet of a deal and certainly not something to be ignored
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Surely, whether you have kids to support factors into it, it was my understanding that it's 80% for those who have kids? It would be especially cruel to punish single parents with lower payments, even or rather especially if they are the ones left with alimony payments as there is not really any way to "tighten the belt" on those.
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RAV pays 70% w/o children and 80% with children based on your average salary earned in the last year with a cap, I think CHF10'500 CHF per month.
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Surely, whether you have kids to support factors into it, it was my understanding that it's 80% for those who have kids? It would be especially cruel to punish single parents with lower payments, even or rather especially if they are the ones left with alimony payments as there is not really any way to "tighten the belt" on those.
Indeed as I have to pay a significant amount for two of my children and the third one lives with me.
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