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Orientation Dutch student on Swiss job market

Hello everyone,

After reading for quite some time, I decided to create an account and just post the question I have been struggling with for a couple of weeks.

Currently, I am studying for a master's degree in Industrial Engineering at a university in The Netherlands. However, since I (a) have a bachelor in Economics, (b) have 40 (out of 120) ECTS as free electives, and (c) Dutch master programs in Economics are only 60 ECTS (= only 1 year, of which I can implement half of it in the free electives of my current master), I am planning to do a second master's degree in Economics besides my current degree.

All nice and kind... The reason why I am at this forum, is because of my dream to live (and work) in Switzerland; in particular, the nature, the high standards of living, the people and industries based in Switzerland (pharma, food, finance) attract me.
However, I am wondering how easy or hard it is for a Dutch starter (with two master degrees) to find and get a challenging job. I am, in fact, a very passionate person who is very ambitious.
Would it be easier to get a job on a more senior level (so for example start working in The Netherlands and move to Switzerland at a later stage) or not?

If the described situation is hard, I am considering to do my second master's degree in Zurich. However, this will bring more costs with it (tuition fees for two years in addition to the fees I have to pay in The Netherlands and higher costs of living), and the Dutch education system is excellent as well.
Another possibility is to do my second master's degree at another (foreign) university, to show my flexibility regarding living and working abroad.

Looking forward to someone who can help me.
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Re: Orientation Dutch student on Swiss job market

Hello, welcome to the forum.

If you're willing to put the effort on a second master, the effort of learning a local language is comparable and might be more useful. So, German, French.
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Hello, welcome to the forum.

If you're willing to put the effort on a second master, the effort of learning a local language is comparable and might be more useful. So, German, French.
Hello Axa,
Thank you for responding.

Since I am living very close to the German border plus the fact that I have had German classes at my secondary school (6 years, level B2) I am already
reasonably good at German. That is, I can have basic conversations in German.

However, can I conclude from your reaction that a second master in Switzerland is not so much of an added value?
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However, can I conclude from your reaction that a second master in Switzerland is not so much of an added value?
Unless it’s something extremely relevant to the job does the number of degrees really not matter anywhere in the world. You are educated to a master level, no matter how many times over.
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Re: Orientation Dutch student on Swiss job market

Well, having two master degrees myself I can confirm the marginal benefit of a second one (first one Msc. Economics, second Msc. Business Administration), after 10 years in the big corporate world is rather close to zero.

However, finishing my professional degree (think chartered accountant, CFA etc) really opened some doors in terms of job/career opportunities.

Anyways, I've been in your position in the past, i.e. less than 1 year work experience and looking to relocate to CH from the Netherlands: Look for an internship or traineeship. From there you have the opportunity to prove yourself to your future employer over a longer time period. It's otherwise going to be really, really diffcult to apply from abroad for full-time job, given competition. Good luck!
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However, can I conclude from your reaction that a second master in Switzerland is not so much of an added value?
Good inference.

Now that I remember, a lot of companies offer positions to young and/or recent graduates. Usually they look for graduation date < 2 years. Instead of paying for a master, you may get paid in a trainee program and you also show that flexibility of living and working far away from home. Good luck in your search.
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Re: Orientation Dutch student on Swiss job market

@All Thank you very much for the clear and enlightening responses, it really helped me!
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