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Re: To move or not to move! (From UK to Basel)

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Maybe not as a third country national and not speaking the language.


Well worth checking the job websites, finding out which agencies recruit these positions, and contacting them now to see how the land lies.
On a positive note there is a lot of manufacturing in the Basel area, including Pharma, so maybe it won't be such a big issue.
You have a point. I missed the part about the UK having left the EU. But in that case, wouldn't the OP herself have problems getting a permit?
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Old 07.01.2021, 12:33
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Hello All,

Long post alert.....sorry but I am really confused and it is a big decision for us.

So we are :a family of three (son is 4 years old)

Current Situation in UK:
I make 100k plus bonus, spouse makes 60k plus bonus
Son has just started in a state school
We live in our own place on the outskirts of London zone 6 and both of us work from home
None of speaks any German

Offer in Switzerland:
I have been offered a position is Basel 160k CHF plus bonus and relocation package
My who spouse works as a SRE (Site Reliability Engineer) in UK will need to look for a new job
My son will go to a state school
We will all need to learn German

So my questions are
What are the possibilities for my spouse to find an SRE job in Basel?
If you in my shoes keeping my salary package and current situation in UK in mind would you prefer to move to Basel or stay in UK?

Please pour in your experience. Thanks in advance!
Based on only the information above. I would stay in the UK.
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Old 07.01.2021, 12:51
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Re: To move or not to move! (From UK to Basel)

@OP
If you want to move to CH perhaps now is the time, when your kido is still very young and will catch up with his peers very fast.
As for you two, you can take your time to learn the language(s) as most probably you'll not be needing German at workplace and English is quite common here so you'll get by for a while.
Sounds like a good perspective to me, of course it depends on other factors too e.g. whether you really want to leave UK or not. When we moved abroad we really wanted to leave our home country so it was easy to integrate because we didn't move only for the money, although that was the main motivator at first.
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Re: To move or not to move! (From UK to Basel)

SJL, I faced a similar decision during the middle of Lockdown 1.0.

With all the uncertainties and unknowns, it has to rank as one of the hardest decisions I've ever had to make. Eventually I boiled down the myriad questions, advantages, disadvantages, facts, considerations, unknowns and risks into a single simple question: If I do not take the opportunity, will I regret it?

I'm now here in CH and so far, have no regrets (I reserve the right to change my mind!).

A lot of excellent advice has been given so far.

You can ask 100 people and you will get 200 different opinions. Each equally valid and each worth listening to. But you will be swept like a leaf in the wind if you do not have some things clear in your mind.

(1) Motivations and aspirations
What is important in life for you, your spouse and your family, both severally and jointly? Why do want to move? If its for a few dollars more and to say that you have a Swiss bank account, you will be disappointed (I'm being simplistic, but you get my drift).

(2) Attitude and Openness to Change
How open are you to change? Even if someone else pays and arranges your move and finds you somewhere to live, that's just the beginning. It's only 600 miles from the UK to Switzerland, but the world is not flat. People, language, culture, way of life, tax, shopping and all the other myriad things you take for granted are different. It may take years to adapt. If all you want from life is to go down to the pub each evening for a pint/glass of pinot, chat to your mates, grab fish'nchips'nmushypeas for supper and settle down in front of the telly to watch footie/favourite soap/period drama in English, you will be disappointed (again I'm being simplistic, but you get my drift). A positive attitude is key.

(3) Information
We have the world at our fingertips. Get yourself informed. Read up as much as you can about every aspect. Use diverse sources. Listen to what you want you want to hear. Listen equally to what you don't want to hear. Form your own views and make a decision that is right for you and your family, not someone else.

(4) Emotion
Making decisions is easy. Living with them is another matter. I've lived in several countries. I remember the emotion, the anger, the frustration, the feeling of being trapped at various times in some early moves that I made. Moving country can be an emotional rollercoaster. First the honeymoon. Then the depression. It can break relationships. Hopefully you come through on the otherside.

Looking back I have never regretted any of the moves I've made. I don't look back in regret. If I had my life over, I would do the same again. My life has been enriched immeasurably.

Take the time to do your research, think things through, discuss with people who know you and have your interests at heart. Good luck with whatever you decide!
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Not sure if it is mentioned above but a massive issue will be .. what if you lose your job ? Yes you'll get social security but I've been here a long time from the UK and ... depending on what you do... the job market is a lot tougher here.. smaller market.. far more competition
I understood there were minimum requirements for social security if you lose your job. Not a given that a non EU person is entitled to any benefits if they lose their job within a short time of arrival and having worked here for a limited peiod of time. Almost every job has a probationary period with a relatively short notice period so one's situation is far from secure in the initial few months. Intra company transfer is quite different and really cannot be compared to a job with a new firm.

Over the course of my career I have to admit that I have had very few clients who decided against relocating. They made this decision after a visit and extensive research. Most of my clients were couples and families with children. They hired me directly.

Most employers behave as though they are making the offer of a lifetime and they top it up with relocation support, a firm of their choice, for the most part.

At the moment first hand on-site research is next to impossible. This is why I suggested the OP stay put for now. Maybe in several months the situation will change. Who knows.
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Re: To move or not to move! (From UK to Basel)

I'd stay put. You'd be financially a lot worse off and don't underestimate the impact of losing the support network you likely have for your child.
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Re: To move or not to move! (From UK to Basel)

I havent seen the old folks home argument yet (which was my reason for moving to CH)

Lets say youre old and in the old folks home, looking back on your life. Would you regret not having taken the opportunity to move to another country ?

At the time I was 32 and in a comfortable situation which easily could have continued till my pension age. This to me did not feel good (boring, same old same old for the next 33 years) so when the opportunity came along to move to CH I took it.
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I havent seen the old folks home argument yet (which was my reason for moving to CH)

Lets say youre old and in the old folks home, looking back on your life. Would you regret not having taken the opportunity to move to another country ?

At the time I was 32 and in a comfortable situation which easily could have continued till my pension age. This to me did not feel good (boring, same old same old for the next 33 years) so when the opportunity came along to move to CH I took it.
Wow you are really living life on the wild side by deciding to move to Switzerland
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If you prize your individual right to do whatever the heck you want in your own home and spare time, including mowing the lawn or taking your family shopping on a Sunday.....
... move to ticino
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Re: To move or not to move! (From UK to Basel)

Hello All

Thanks to all for their valuable inputs.

I just wanted to update you all and share our progress so far.

So we decided to take the plunge and move to Basel from the UK. As you know I already had a job offer in Basel for which my permit has been approved.

My husband who is a Site reliability engineer was also able to secure the very first job he interviewed for. He had applied directly with the company. His job was the biggest concerns for us and we are very relieved now!

My son will be attending the public school system. He goes to kindergarten and we are currently just finalising his school as we just signed the lease for the apartment

We are moving at the end of this month and start work in April. Exciting times ahead. Looking forward to the new life in Basel.

Wishing you all a beautiful day

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Re: To move or not to move! (From UK to Basel)

hi,

I left the UK in 2019 and have lived in Basel ever since. I have never regretted the decision to move here. Like many people, before I arrived I expected to stay 1 year and now I have been here for over 30 years and have no desire to ever live in the UK again.

Life is what you make of it, good luck with your new adventure.

have fun
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hi,

I left the UK in 2019 and have lived in Basel ever since. I have never regretted the decision to move here. Like many people, before I arrived I expected to stay 1 year and now I have been here for over 30 years and have no desire to ever live in the UK again.

Life is what you make of it, good luck with your new adventure.

have fun
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