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MSc Physiotherapy (pre-registration): is it recognised?

Hi everyone,
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I'm really struggling to look for information about MSc Physiotherapy (pre-registration) recognition in Switzerland.

I'm Italian, but I live in the UK since 10 years now. This year I'm going to graduate in BSc Sport and Exercise Science and would like to start an MSc Physiotherapy (pre-registration) in January 2022. This course last 2 years full-time and has the same hours of placement as the BSc. However, this master gives 90 ECTS credits, while the BSc gives 180 ECTS credits.
My plan for the future is to move to Switzerland, but I'm not sure if this Master is recognised there.
On the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy website they state that UK degrees are internationally recognised, but when I look for info in other countries they all consider BSc Physiotherapy, not MSc.
Is there any physiotherapist among you or do you know someone who is a physiotherapist and could help me to find an answer to my question?

Thank you very much for your help.
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Re: MSc Physiotherapy (pre-registration): is it recognised?

These are the guys you need to contact to know for sure https://www.redcross.ch/it/riconosci...lo-terziario-8

Have you considered studying Physio here in Switzerland?
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Re: MSc Physiotherapy (pre-registration): is it recognised?

Thank you, I've already contacted them, but still waiting for a reply.

Yes, I thought about it, but it will take few years before moving there and then other 4 years for a BSc in Physiotherapy. I'm 37 years old and would like to use the time as better as possible.
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Hi everyone,
Hope you can help.
I'm really struggling to look for information about MSc Physiotherapy (pre-registration) recognition in Switzerland.

I'm Italian, but I live in the UK since 10 years now. This year I'm going to graduate in BSc Sport and Exercise Science and would like to start an MSc Physiotherapy (pre-registration) in January 2022. This course last 2 years full-time and has the same hours of placement as the BSc. However, this master gives 90 ECTS credits, while the BSc gives 180 ECTS credits.
My plan for the future is to move to Switzerland, but I'm not sure if this Master is recognised there.
On the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy website they state that UK degrees are internationally recognised, but when I look for info in other countries they all consider BSc Physiotherapy, not MSc.
Is there any physiotherapist among you or do you know someone who is a physiotherapist and could help me to find an answer to my question?

Thank you very much for your help.
There seems to be more info here

https://www.supsi.ch/deass/formazion...litazione.html
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Re: MSc Physiotherapy (pre-registration): is it recognised?

Check these sites:

https://www.enic-naric.net/switzerland.aspx

https://www.swissuniversities.ch/en/...ion/swiss-enic

https://www.sbfi.admin.ch/sbfi/en/ho...fications.html


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Thank you for your help.
Unfortunately the link is for joining an Advanced Master in Switzerland after the BSc Physiotherapy. What I need to know is if the UK MSc Physiotherapy, without having a BSc, is enough to work as physiotehrapist in Switzerland as it is in UK.
I can do the MSC Physiotherapy in UK, because I have a BSc in a related subject.
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Donít discount doing the BSc Physio in the U.K.

The Pre-Reg masters is in demand with not many Uniís offering it, very difficult to get on to, and a very intense course. BSc is an extra year, but easier to get a place and not so stressful to complete.
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Donít discount doing the BSc Physio in the U.K.

The Pre-Reg masters is in demand with not many Uniís offering it, very difficult to get on to, and a very intense course. BSc is an extra year, but easier to get a place and not so stressful to complete.
Yep, I considered that as well, but unfortunately, applications for September 2021 are close and the University of Nottingham where I live is always in high demand, this means I will probably have to wait until September 2022.

About the MSc, luckily I have 4 years experience in Physiotherapy settings both in NHS hospital and private practice plus other qualifications which should give a big boost to my applciation. My tutor said I shouldn't have any problem in getting a place, but of course I'm considering all options as you never know.

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Yep, I considered that as well, but unfortunately, applications for September 2021 are close and the University of Nottingham where I live is always in high demand, this means I will probably have to wait until September 2022.
When I applied for Sports Therapy, I applied around this time of year, well after the close date, and I got a full set of offers. Nothing to stop you applying after close date at all. Might be worth a try if you were interested.
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Re: MSc Physiotherapy (pre-registration): is it recognised?

Not a direct answer to your question, but...

I want to just add that an aquaintance of mine runs a psysiotherapy center and they absolutely can not find qualified psysiotherapists and this is a huge problem in Switzerland.

So, while I can't speak for you as an individual, apparently the job market for psysiotherapists in Switzerland is great.
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When I applied for Sports Therapy, I applied around this time of year, well after the close date, and I got a full set of offers. Nothing to stop you applying after close date at all. Might be worth a try if you were interested.
Thank you, but unfortunately it is not so easy as my choices are limited to the uni in the city where I live, Nottingham. I'm a mature student (37) I've bought a house and have a family to take care of, so I cannot move to another town where other courses are available.
I spoke with the University of Nottingham and they said they are full for the BSc starting on September 2021, the only chance I could have is if someone gives up before July as on 5th July they open the "Clearing" where if there is still a place available I can apply for it.
Anyway, I keep monitoring the UCAS website every day to see if something comes up. If not, the best option in MSc starting on January 2022.
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Not a direct answer to your question, but...

I want to just add that an aquaintance of mine runs a psysiotherapy center and they absolutely can not find qualified psysiotherapists and this is a huge problem in Switzerland.

So, while I can't speak for you as an individual, apparently the job market for psysiotherapists in Switzerland is great.
Thank you very much, I heard about lack of physio in Switzerland and actually some physiotherapist working there told me that people like Sport Therapist and Massage Therapist have been able to be recognised as physiotherapists even if they are not. However, I suppose it depends on case by case.
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Thank you, but unfortunately it is not so easy as my choices are limited to the uni in the city where I live, Nottingham. I'm a mature student (37) I've bought a house and have a family to take care of, so I cannot move to another town where other courses are available.
I spoke with the University of Nottingham and they said they are full for the BSc starting on September 2021, the only chance I could have is if someone gives up before July as on 5th July they open the "Clearing" where if there is still a place available I can apply for it.
Anyway, I keep monitoring the UCAS website every day to see if something comes up. If not, the best option in MSc starting on January 2022.
Why not plan your career starting from your current options, so if now you can do that master's degree in UK, why not? You never know what other possibilities will open up for you in the future, maybe even in CH.
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Why not plan your career starting from your current options, so if now you can do that master's degree in UK, why not? You never know what other possibilities will open up for you in the future, maybe even in CH.
You're right. It's probably more about to be scary of making the wrong choice... even if when it's about education and learning it should never be a wrong choice.
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I haven't looked up that link, and you may very well have submitted all the info they require. And of course, replies can take a while.

My comment, here, is meant just as a tip about the general way things are done in Switzerland. If a website sets out a procedure to apply for being assessed, they really want applicants to follow that exact procedure. It is their way of streamlining their work, since they receive applications from all over the world. Because of this, they are much less unlikely to respond quickly to any mail which asks for info outside of that defined assessment process.

If it says: To be assessed, "submit documents a, b, and c" they are unlikely to process it quickly (or in the worst case, at all) if you submit only 2 of 3 documents required. Similarly, "fill out this form" means, here: "fill out every part of this form". Therefore, if you find that you cannot supply some part of what they ask, it's best to first go about collecting that info, before applying so as to supply the full set of what they ask.

In your case, that's a bit tricky, if you're wanting to know how a future qualification, which you don't yet have, is likely to be assessed in Switzerland, in the future. (And well done to you, to want to do the research in advance!)

In that case, you could fill out two sets of the forms, but offline.
Gather all the info and documents of the qualification that you do already have, plus another full set as if you already do have the future qualification. If you can get those two sets complete, you could try to phone them and ask whether someone would be kind enough to help you by informing you about not only your current but also your future qualification, if you sent them your bundle.
Thank you for the clarification and thelink about job offer description.

I received an answer to my question from the Red Cross today and they said that for legal reasons, the Recognition of Foreign Professional Qualifications Service of the CRS cannot provide binding indications concerning possible recognition before obtaining the professional title. They also said that the legislation and the relevant criteria may undergo changes over time and that general information on the recognition of professional qualifications in regulated non-university health professions is available on their site.

Basically, at this time no one knows
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If I understand you correctly, that answer from the Red Cross is about your potential new qualification. Have you managed to find out whether the qualification you already have, could be assessed?
I donít think Sports Science is generally a protected qualification, but jobs in sports science are far rarer than physio.
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If I understand you correctly, that answer from the Red Cross is about your potential new qualification. Have you managed to find out whether the qualification you already have, could be assessed?
Yes, that answer is about the new qualification.
No assessment needed for the Sport Science one instead.

@Island Monkey: sport science can luckily be applied to various fields: university research, strength and conditiong, sport coaching, biomechanics, human movement... Probably there are opportunities, but you need to look for them on specific websites or agencies. It's the same here in the UK.
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