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She is breaking a rule? no, I think this forum is full of nazi shit she is my couple and I live here so she leaves here with me if we get a problem we will take this problem to a European commission until we run out of this nazi nigthmare
I am not sure if you understand that I am trying to help you. you are the one saying she would be kicked out. I am not even EU and I do not know the rules. I am just going by what you have said. There is no need to call people trying to help you Nazis.

Really, if this is the treatment people get for trying to help, we should all stop answering questions and let you deal with it. you cannot even deal with RAV and read the conditions for unemployment benefit and you believe you can take Switzerland to the European commission? Good luck with that.

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With a delay of at least three months.

Resigning is NEVER a good idea.

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She suffered very hard Harassment, threats yelling for her past boss and she had to leave she cried every day it was impossible for her, she went to a real nightmare to resign before the year, the boss wrote to her mobile at any time sometimes at 3:00 am the wife of the boss written even on Sundays the guy was trying to destroy her life, we were new here and doesn't know what to do. she can't take it anymore and resigned.

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Old 07.03.2021, 21:07
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She suffered very hard Harassment, threats yelling for her past boss and she had to leave she cried every day it was impossible for her, she went to a real nightmare to resign before the year, the boss wrote to her mobile at any time sometimes at 3:00 am the wife of the boss written even on Sundays the guy was trying to destroy her life, we were new here and doesn't know what to do. she can't take it anymore and resigned.
Should have gone off on sick. Did neither of you consider finding independent help? Even a lawyer?

The rule of law applies here. You seem to have behaved from the start as though it doesn't and you're helpless in the face of the mean bosses. Even in Spain (I speak from experience - I knew a complete ****head when I worked their briefly in the early 2000s).

By the way - why do you say you're from Spain, but your profile says you're Polish? Just wondering? Did you move there when you were young?
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Old 07.03.2021, 23:05
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She has a lot of emails of job rejections telling her that they will love to contract her but she needs more german. she has more than 10 years of experience in her sector. I hear that if she registers at RAV and not find a job with a B permit she will be kicked out of the country in 3 months, that's why she hasn't registered before. I have a B permit and we plan to get married soon.
Getting married? Congrats! And, I guess the residence permit issue simplifies a bit.

About German, why is it so important? One point in common among many foreigners like us is being hired in spite of poor knowledge of local languages because there are other valuable skills. Of course, mastering 1 or 2 local languages is quite valuable, but that is not what landed a contract in first place. She already did it once, why not possible a second one?
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Old 08.03.2021, 07:38
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Hi thank you, She worked continuously in Spain for seven years, another thing is that she resigned from her past job here in Switzerland at the beginning of the pandemic, can she ask for this RAV assistance anyways?
Yes, but if she hasn't worked in a year, she will get nothing, as the amount depends on her average salary over the 6 (or 12) months preceding her registration at the URC.

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Old 08.03.2021, 07:39
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mastering 1 or 2 local languages is quite valuable, but that is not what landed a contract in first place.
Actually, it has ALWAYS been the case for me.

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Actually, it has ALWAYS been the case for me.

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Not for me ... first job was as a copywriter due to my English skills. Landed a job after that I never would have been able get in the States because of my English skills. I’ve since learned German, but it isn’t always mandatory.

OP, there are risks to moving abroad for a job ... sincere apologies for your troubles, but the system in this country is extremely fair. Where I come from, many are forced to live in their cars these days.
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About German, why is it so important? One point in common among many foreigners like us is being hired in spite of poor knowledge of local languages because there are other valuable skills. Of course, mastering 1 or 2 local languages is quite valuable, but that is not what landed a contract in first place. She already did it once, why not possible a second one?
Honestly, I find this sort of comment so hard to take. And illustrates well why so many develop resentment towards immigrants. In my book, wherever you go, and whatever your MT is- the first sign of respect for the country you move to, and its people- is to learn the language. Not talking about the past subjunctive here, but basic communication at least.

And not everybody works in the kind of environment where English is the norm

Sad and disappointing.
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Honestly, I find this sort of comment so hard to take. And illustrates well why so many develop resentment towards immigrants. In my book, wherever you go, and whatever your MT is- the first sign of respect for the country you move to, and its people- is to learn the language. Not talking about the past subjunctive here, but basic communication at least.

And not everybody works in the kind of environment where English is the norm

Sad and disappointing.
I completely agree that you should learn the language - but in the Swiss German part, it isn't as straight forwards as living in the French or Italian side. Swiss German can sound completely different in each canton - in the cities, the second they realize you are a foreigner, they will switch to English. Or if you insist and make an effort to speak high German, they will stick to Swiss German. I am lucky to be married to a Swiss, therefore my Swiss German is better than my high German, but it isn't like that for most immigrants here.
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I completely agree that you should learn the language - but in the Swiss German part, it isn't as straight forwards as living in the French or Italian side. Swiss German can sound completely different in each canton.
So, same as here in the Italian bits, except that here it is different in each village, and not just each canton (same as in Italy)!

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Did she go to RAV after she resigned last year? Because the payment will not be very much now as it is calculated from the last 12 or 24 months.

Maybe she can take Skype lessons? That can be cheaper sometimes
My understanding is that the qualifying period for RAV is 12 months out of 24 counting from the last day of employment, not from the day you register for RAV, ie you can register one year after last working day.
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Thanks, good to know, that might be beneficial for OP´s girlfriend.
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Honestly, I find this sort of comment so hard to take. And illustrates well why so many develop resentment towards immigrants. In my book, wherever you go, and whatever your MT is- the first sign of respect for the country you move to, and its people- is to learn the language. Not talking about the past subjunctive here, but basic communication at least.

And not everybody works in the kind of environment where English is the norm

Sad and disappointing.
I did not get a entry D permit for knowing a Swiss national language in advance. The Swiss and other long term immigrants have kids which are infinitely better than me at that. I have other skills which the local kids don't have and/or don't make an effort to get.

But that was on 2013. I'm not sitting on my hands.....errr...tongue. So far I went to school for French, now I write reports in French and handle my team's communication with customers in French speaking cantons and France. Now, I'm advancing in Deutsch, got to A2. Before covid I visited regularly a local brewery to get into Swiss Deutsch. If I know what the topic is, I can follow the conversation. It really helps these days that people show a photo on the phone when talking about something. With that little support I can have a talk and answer properly

A bitter truth is that the environment where it's possible to start working in English, and then catch up in a national language, is where foreigners have competitive advantage. If high level of local language is a must, it just means the employee has no specialized skills and competing for a job position with the locals is really damned hard. I'd say, more effort than reward. Why choose the hardest path?
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