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Old 07.03.2021, 21:03
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Re: Chomage while seeking work and living abroad

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Well, thankfully I gave links so whatever mistake I made can be corrected. It is still better than your answer which did not provide any source.

Edit: I have found the document which led me to write 'at least': https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...s/index_en.htm

I do not know if this is valid between CH and EU but it states the term can be extended under certain conditions. it is certainly worth looking into.

So, no need to be a smart-ass nitpicking what is in affect a very useful post.
Making a comment and then posting links that directly contradict that statement is neither useful nor helpful, it’s just confusing.

I wasn’t nit-picking, I was pointing out the irony of your post. You berate somebody for posting erroneous information whilst doing exactly the same thing yourself.
If I was being nit-picky I’d point out that the correct term is ‘in effect’ and not ‘in affect’.
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Can you please post the relevant part where it states that the minimum is three months and that it is possible to extend it up to 6 months for Switzerland?
I can’t find that in either of the links that you posted relating to Switzerland. They all quite clearly state that the maximum is three months and that at the end of the three months you have the possibility to continue claiming unemployment benefit in Switzerland if you become a Swiss resident again.
Look, you seem intent on winning the argument by all means but the link I gave is referenced by the page :

https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/en/...e-eu-efta.html

Which is clearly A Swiss government site. You seem incapable of understanding official documents.

You and your chum roegner made a mistake or rather hoped that the OP cannot benefit from unemployment payments. Just accept it and move on. In the future refrain from answering questions in matters beyond your power of comprehension.There is no need to call me a 'jerk' or 'stupid' while giving me a bad reputation.
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Look, you seem intent on winning the argument by all means but the link I gave is referenced by the page :

https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/en/...e-eu-efta.html

Which is clearly A Swiss government site. You seem incapable of understanding official documents.

You and your chum roegner made a mistake or rather hoped that the OP cannot benefit from unemployment payments. Just accept it and move on. In the future refrain from answering questions in matters beyond your power of comprehension.There is no need to call me a 'jerk' or 'stupid' while giving me a bad reputation.
Oh dear! People in glass houses and all that......

Did you actually read the links you posted? I did and unlike you I understood them.

Let me help you.

From this link (which you kindly sent accompanied by re rep despite having already edited a post to include it in the thread and which doesn’t even answer the question I asked):

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...s/index_en.htm

This link refers to the EU which Switzerland is not a part of although it does apply certain agreements.

Here is the important part

“ Staying abroad longer than 3 months

If you want to stay abroad for longer than 3 months, you will need to apply for an extension from the national employment service in the country where you became unemployed: they may extend the 3-month period up to 6 months.
Not all countries grant extensions. Ask the public employment service in your home country if, and under what conditions, extensions can be granted.

Most of the countries granting extensions have clear criteria for assessing requests. They could, for instance, ask you for:

evidence of any efforts you made to find a job during the first 3 months
evidence that you have a better chance of finding a job abroad during the extended period
information about job opportunities on your host country's labour market.
Apply for the extension as early as possible. You must apply before the end of the initial 3-month period.“

Now if you look at the links for Switzerland that you posted you can clearly see:

From your first link

https://www.ahv-iv.ch/p/880.e

On page page 39 it says

“ Can I look for a job in another country and receive unemployment benefits there?
Yes, Swiss unemployment benefits can be paid out abroad under certain circumstances and for a maximum of three months.
After registering with the Swiss employment services, insured persons must have remained avail- able to the competent employment service during four weeks. Once their claim for export has been approved, insured persons may move to the state where they want to look for a job, notify the competent employment services of their arrival and comply with that country’s control pro- cedures.
The Swiss unemployment office continues to pay Swiss unemployment benefits for a maximum period of three months. EFTA nationals can also benefit from their right to Swiss unemployment benefits whilst living in another EFTA member state, for a maximum period of three months. However, they are paid by the competent foreign institution who is in turn, reimbursed by the Swiss authorities.
If the person does not find new employment within the three months, he or she can return to Switzerland and continue to receive unemployment insurance benefits.
Detailed information is available in the leaflet from the SECO “Unemployment benefits when seeking employment abroad (EU or EFTA member states)“”

And from the second link you posted:

https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/en/...e-eu-efta.html

“ Important information for nationals returning to the EU/EFTA

If you are registered as unemployed, you have the option of searching for work abroad while continuing to receive unemployment benefits (“benefits transfer”). However, this is only possible for up to three months and only in an EU-28/EFTA country. In principle, it is not permitted to emigrate immediately after becoming unemployed. You must usually make yourself available in the local labour market for at least four weeks before starting to seek work abroad.

If you plan to look for work abroad, you must apply to the responsible unemployment benefits office for a benefits transfer before leaving Switzerland. The regional employment centre (RAV) is responsible for this. The responsible office will issue the necessary PD U2 certification.”

It is perfectly clear that whilst it may be possible to extend the exportation of benefits for up to six months it is by no means a given and is wholly dependant on the country where the benefits were earned.
It is also perfectly clear from the two official links for Switzerland that the maximum is three months after to which you have to return to Switzerland if you wish to continue receiving the Swiss unemployment benefit.

I won’t hold my breath waiting for an apology as that would be certain suicide.

And for the record I never called you stupid or a jerk but I realise that reading comprehension is not your forte.
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