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If, during the job interview, you will get the very german joke they tell you and you are able to say something witty in return, you are good to go!
You're confusing the metaphor! Germans don't have a sense of humour and the Swiss fail to understand it
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Old 12.05.2021, 15:45
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You're confusing the metaphor! Germans don't have a sense of humour and the Swiss fail to understand it
Then your mother tongue is not german!

No Swiss german can claim german as his/mother tongue
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Old 12.05.2021, 15:47
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Who cares?

If somebody thinks her/his german is good enough to pass for mother tongue or whatever, just apply for the job.


If, during the job interview, you will get the very german joke they tell you and you are able to say something witty in return, you are good to go!

As somebody mentioned, sometimes you need to have a native-mother tongue-whatever person because the whole team is that way, or because the job requires deep local knowledge.

I grew up in Switzerland, and have seen this kind of ads all over Switzerland. Here in CH Romande, you will see it very often for government or office jobs, for example.
This. It's a nice summary of an otherwise tedious thread.

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Then your mother tongue is not german!

No Swiss german can claim german as his/mother tongue
As pointed out countless times by my Swiss friends.
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Then your mother tongue is not german!

No Swiss german can claim german as his/mother tongue
Well, it was you how proposed telling German jokes at Swiss interviews
As per my own definiton (sore thumb) - yes, I still stick out sometimes, not just in Swiss-German
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Old 12.05.2021, 15:50
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Sorry Tom… but I have to heavily disagree with you regarding "EVERYWHERE".

In the EU is ilegal to even ask for a native speaker. (https://teflequityadvocates.com/2014...ds-and-eu-law/)

And I think you are from the US, where I also highly doubt you can put on a job ad that you are looking for a native english speaker.

Again… What you can ask for and I think it's totally fine, it's for a level of a language. I totally agree after that on the interview can happen a lot of things.

But it's clearly NOT used EVERYWHERE the term MOTHER TONGUE.
I guess we better close the EF shop since we've been breaking EU law repeatedly and without any remorse at all Just search for native and look at the results, nannies are specially on high demand https://www.englishforum.ch/search2.php?q=native.

On the other hand, why is EU regulation relevant in first place?
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No Swiss german can claim german as his/mother tongue
Indeed, my wife is Swiss German and has Italian as her mother tongue!

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Indeed, my wife is Swiss German and has Italian as her mother tongue!

Tom
Those are the best
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Those are the best
Best at what?
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Best at what?
Being Swiss-German wives and speaking Italian, of course. Now what did you think
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Re: German as a mother tongue?

Hers is an interesting job ad for a company in Barcelona:

https://jobs.keysight.com/job/Barcel...-CT/741240500/

Customer Service Coordinator with native British English

(no yankees need apply)
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Hers is an interesting job ad for a company in Barcelona:

https://jobs.keysight.com/job/Barcel...-CT/741240500/

Customer Service Coordinator with native British English

(no yankees need apply)
Extra points:

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***Keysight is an Equal Opportunity Employer.***
No way, the EU has banned by law that kind of stuff. Only CH is nasty!

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Hers is an interesting job ad for a company in Barcelona:

https://jobs.keysight.com/job/Barcel...-CT/741240500/

Customer Service Coordinator with native British English

(no yankees need apply)
positive discrimination - and still the whining never ceases
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No way, the EU has banned by law that kind of stuff. Only CH is nasty!
And you have to live in Barcelona! I call this discriminatory! What about the guy who lives in the nearest village?
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No way, the EU has banned by law that kind of stuff. Only CH is nasty!
They are looking for someone with a certain skillset --> English Level equal to a native Speaker. where is the problem?
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They are looking for someone with a certain skillset --> English Level equal to a native Speaker. where is the problem?
Sarcastic remark to OP's reply #131
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And you have to live in Barcelona! I call this discriminatory! What about the guy who lives in the nearest village?
Here is the perfect candidate.
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You're confusing the metaphor!
There was no metaphor.
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The job ad is for this a "Informatiker / Geoinformatiker (m/w/d) für Infrastruktur & GIS". I guess that the requirement is because you are going to have contact with customers.
Someone who does installations, support and training at the customer's place, apparently all over Switzerland, or remotely, needs to understand the Swiss German dialects with ease. That will be a big factor in how the candidate is perceived.

Given the topic their rather poor German in the ad is quite ironic.
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Here is the perfect candidate.
I always think of this when (British) people on a British car group post that they're looking for a manuel.
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Re: German as a mother tongue?

[QUOTE=Landers;3305478]I always think of this when (British) people on a British car group post that they're looking for a manuel.[/

Only a native ,mother tongue, whatever... (British) English speaker would know about fork handles.
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