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Is it possible legally to do "home office" from another country during the pandemic situation? If someone wants to live with family and if they are in different countries? My friend would like to ask employer whether he can do "home office" in Germany since his wife needs help, but he is working in Switzerland and she is working in Germany. He enquired already the same but there is no positive response from Company.

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Old 28.05.2021, 09:23
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Re: "home office" from another country

That is up to the company.

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Dear All,

Is it possible legally to do "home office" from another country during the pandemic situation? If someone wants to live with family and if they are in different countries? My friend would like to ask employer whether he can do "home office" in Germany since his wife needs help, but he is working in Switzerland and she is working in Germany. He enquired already the same but there is no positive response from Company.

Regards,
Jack
As you say, it depends whether the company will allow it or not.

Would also depend on whether they're EU or non-EU, would have to be careful of the Swiss permit situation if non-EU. Still, first need to get the company's okay and then see what the gemeinde/commune say about the permit situation re home working abroad atm.
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Re: "home office" from another country

Depends also on the status of some EU Directives on teleworking. Due to the pandemic they were suspended, but for how long, not clear. They have a particularly negative impact on employers. Search some other threads where this has already been discussed.
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Old 28.05.2021, 11:11
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That is up to the company.

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and it depends what you do, if its data analysis for example then its ok, but it may have tax implications if youre making business decisions - your company should give you guidance
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Re: "home office" from another country

We see the situation of having a contract in X country and working on Y from our Swiss bubble. In reality, this is applied by not-so-scrupulous people to hire workers in low income countries and bring them to work illegally in higher income countries. I'm not familiar with the German laws against illegal workers, guess there are some EU wide rules. The point is CH companies are not willing to deal with all the new paperwork to prove you're not an illegal worker abroad.

A bit of gossip from the office, apparently the accident insurance is higher if you're abroad. The message from management was no prob if you go abroad for 1, 2 or 3 months, but keep center of life in CH. Or at least try to keep up the appearances.
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We see the situation of having a contract in X country and working on Y from our Swiss bubble. In reality, this is applied by not-so-scrupulous people to hire workers in low income countries and bring them to work illegally in higher income countries. I'm not familiar with the German laws against illegal workers, guess there are some EU wide rules. The point is CH companies are not willing to deal with all the new paperwork to prove you're not an illegal worker abroad.

A bit of gossip from the office, apparently the accident insurance is higher if you're abroad. The message from management was no prob if you go abroad for 1, 2 or 3 months, but keep center of life in CH. Or at least try to keep the appearances.

Also, if you work in the EU with a Swiss contract, carry an official document (signed by the company) that they are paying your social security premiums, certificate A1.
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Old 28.05.2021, 11:52
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Re: "home office" from another country

As others have said, this is dependent on several variables - permit situation, citizenship, tax status, and company discretion to name a few.

Last year I went home to Australia and worked remotely for 6 months for a British company. My employer were extremely helpful in providing support, however it did impact my tax status in both countries, and I couldn't have done it legally without dual citizenship.

Obviously your situation will be dependent on your own factors, but if the company are willing to assist you with the logistical and administrative challenges, it might be possible.
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Re: "home office" from another country

I have a co-worker who was allowed to work from Bali(!) for (I think) three months.
He's now there, reachable from 02:00 to 14:00 our time.

I don't know what concessions he had to make (probably a reduction in salary).

I'm not sure if Bali actually collects taxes from these people - he'll probably pretend he's a tourist for the time being, while our employer continues to pay for social security etc.pp. here in Switzerland.

He hasn't been to the office for months anyway and worked remote 100%... (different story).

Personally, given the volatile situation regarding "mutations", I'd choose a domicile closer to EU-shores (probably Tenerife) - but it remains to be seen just how safe these are given the plunge into poverty all these destinations have suffered due to the absence of tourism for a whole year, basically.

We have contractual obligations to some clients that require their services to be operated from within Switzerland.
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Re: "home office" from another country

Our company has a clear policy

'For tax reasons, remote working hours outside Switzerland may not exceed 25% of the total working hours'
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