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Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

Hello folks , I recently received an offer of 115k CHF . I have 8 years of experience . 90% is fixed salary 10% variable . Is this offer matching industry standard?
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Re: Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

To piss in a pot, sounds a little over-rated.


I would wait until you get a definate answer about how long a piece of string is
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Re: Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

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Its long term contract
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Re: Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

Its a middle of the road salary for a developer with some experience, but no special responsibilities. No architecture, not project management, definitely not managing people. With 8 years experience a little on the low side, especially as it is already total comp including the bonus.

Without more info hard to say if its good in your case... at the end of the day does it depend on the exact role. But as a ballpark figure is it about right - could be better, could be worse.
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Its long term contract
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You have provided very little information so how can you expect an informed and reliable answer ?
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Hello folks , I recently received an offer of 115k CHF . I have 8 years of experience . 90% is fixed salary 10% variable . Is this offer matching industry standard?

I would say well below market, though it might be influenced by your YoE. What vertical (FSI/manufacturing etc.) is the offer from?


Have you considered applying to Microsoft? While their engineering isnt officially in zurich there are customer facing roles that would use those skils ("evanglists", professional services consultamts etc.). Their offer would be much higher than that, and they are hiring (I dont work for them but am in the same field)
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Hello folks , I recently received an offer of 115k CHF . I have 8 years of experience . 90% is fixed salary 10% variable . Is this offer matching industry standard?
I'm afraid you are 5K under the EF poverty line. Please delete your account and come back when you have more money.
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Re: Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

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After reading many forums I feel Its a low offer
How easy is it to switch jobs in Zurich for a B permit holder
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Re: Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

Pretty much impossible to switch jobs unless you're Swiss or German. 115k is fine if you are single or have a partner that works too.

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Pretty much impossible to switch jobs unless you're Swiss or German
Nonsense. And OP is German.
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Re: Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

Who's hiring? Plenty of job ads, interviews and hubris but no contracts to be seen.
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Re: Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

I am single but willing to find a girl in 1-2 years and get settled
Berlin salary is at the low side too 70K . I am an average programmer.
If I am earning around 75k in berlin, 115k CHF is good?
I have also an offer from frankfurt 85k euro but Switzerland as the country seems interesting
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I am single but willing to find a girl in 1-2 years and get settled
Berlin salary is at the low side too 70K . I am an average programmer.
If I am earning around 75k in berlin, 115k CHF is good?
I have also an offer from frankfurt 85k euro but Switzerland as the country seems interesting
When I first came here in 2008 I was single and had a salary of 115k. Moved from Germany where I was on low 60k. Felt there was plenty of money left at the end of the month. Of course, prices have moved quite a bit since, particularly on rent. If I remember correctly, I had a 1 bedroom apt ("2.5 rooms") for 1900 a month, in Zurich 10.

Do the numbers and see what the bottom line is for you. Make sure you allocate generously on food and going out.

Then there is lifestyle. I like Zurich, and it is not Berlin. At all. Which is good. I think Frankfurt sucks. But that is all a matter of preferences.
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Re: Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

Check this resource, they crowdsource salaries from around the world and there are some for devs in Switzerland: https://www.levels.fyi
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Re: Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

Some salary hints here. I have no idea what all these jobs really are, but you may know. In the post above there was a link from Treverus on another IT salary study.

https://www.englishforum.ch/3346353-post10.html
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Re: Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

Thanks, Based on this report Salary looks ok
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Re: Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

I thought anything 'cloud' was still a hot skillset?
Usually it's 'Cloud architect' from what I recall.

With the still on-going 'move to the cloud' mantra, I'll stick my neck out and say it's low, especially in Zurich and healthcare (pretty wealthy industry).
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Re: Software Engineer ( Azure Cloud ) - 115k CHF

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How easy is it to switch jobs in Zurich for a B permit holder

Was easy for me, left my first job when I first moved here after 2 months and I'm a B permit holder.

Looking for another job and getting plenty of interviews, I have been in Switzerland for 2.5 years.


I'm looking for cloud roles and I say starting from 120.000CHF none of them had a problem with that, including Microsoft themselves.
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Was easy for me, left my first job when I first moved here after 2 months and I'm a B permit holder.

Looking for another job and getting plenty of interviews, I have been in Switzerland for 2.5 years.


I'm looking for cloud roles and I say starting from 120.000CHF none of them had a problem with that, including Microsoft themselves.
Interviews are just conversations, HR are window shopping
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Thanks, Based on this report Salary looks ok
These are base numbers though.
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