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Computer Science degree with little to none work experience?

I am an Indian in the US with a US-based Bachelor's degree. I have 1 year of software engineering work experience, 2 years of administrative/front desk.

Is it possible to get an entry-level IT job that would provide a work permit with no prior experience? Not necessarily a software engineer role, could be even IT support or similar.

I am new to researching swiss employment and lifestyle, slightly aware that the market is more competitive than usual and that non-EU are at the bottom of preferences. A2 German and French (I know this is not great for this scenario), English native.

Appreciate any help. I have checked some job boards.
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Is it possible to get an entry-level IT job that would provide a work permit with no prior experience?

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You have very little chance of getting anything in Switzerland. Essentially the answer is "no, it's not possible".
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I am an Indian in the US with a US-based Bachelor's degree. I have 1 year of software engineering work experience, 2 years of administrative/front desk.

Is it possible to get an entry-level IT job that would provide a work permit with no prior experience? Not necessarily a software engineer role, could be even IT support or similar.

I am new to researching swiss employment and lifestyle, slightly aware that the market is more competitive than usual and that non-EU are at the bottom of preferences. A2 German and French (I know this is not great for this scenario), English native.

Appreciate any help. I have checked some job boards.
It is not technically impossible, but your chances of getting an IT support role are extremely low, because if there is one thing Switzerland has no shortage of, it is fresh graduates that can do on-site IT support roles and speak the local languages.

While of course there is nothing to stop you applying now, I would advise spending a couple of years getting more experience and learning the major programming languages, in addition to IT and cloud security, and then applying for software engineer roles.

If you can't get directly into Switzerland, then you could also try a surrounding country like Germany or France and work your way from there. However, you would likely then need C1 language skills.
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Re: Computer Science degree with little to none work experience?

Currently there are programs running in Switzerland whereby refugees are given a leg-up to help them to integrate. My former company, a large financial services provider, has embraced the program with enthusiasm. They are getting highly skilled and very motivated IT people with good attitudes at very low cost.

You don't stand a chance.
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Re: Computer Science degree with little to none work experience?

Thanks for the replies. I wanted to ask this in my initial question. What about other careers and fields? I can not change the Computer Science bachelor's degree that I have completed of course but I am considering moving out of IT regardless of working in Switzerland, after having research experience in the biomedical field whilst I was working as a software engineer.

In short, are there any careers, outside of IT/engineering that don't require 5+ years of experience before a non-EU national can be in the running for a work permit? Does my computer science degree limit me to such jobs when I am applying or even if a company is offering to hire me for a role not related to my degree?
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Thanks for the replies. I wanted to ask this in my initial question. What about other careers and fields? I can not change the Computer Science bachelor's degree that I have completed of course but I am considering moving out of IT regardless of working in Switzerland, after having research experience in the biomedical field whilst I was working as a software engineer.

In short, are there any careers, outside of IT/engineering that don't require 5+ years of experience before a non-EU national can be in the running for a work permit? Does my computer science degree limit me to such jobs when I am applying or even if a company is offering to hire me for a role not related to my degree?
Ask yourself why a company would ever need to go through the logistical hassle (sorting out permits etc) of recruiting an Indian IT grad, with no relevant experience, who lives in the USA? What would you have to offer above the legions of inexperienced people with far better language skills that they could find either in Switzerland or in EU countries? If you think about that question long enough then it should start to seem very unlikely.

I get that you want to move here and are exploring your options, that is good, but you need to be able to offer something tangible to a company that would make them want to go through the additional cost and effort of hiring someone from a non-EU country and then bringing them to Switzerland.

Can you perhaps explore doing further education at a university in Switzerland, such as another Masters? If you have the funds to do that (and without a scholarship the money needed would likely be significant) then this would give you a much better avenue to explore your options from the country.
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In short, are there any careers, outside of IT/engineering that don't require 5+ years of experience before a non-EU national can be in the running for a work permit? Does my computer science degree limit me to such jobs when I am applying or even if a company is offering to hire me for a role not related to my degree?
The EU/EEA/CH have an agreement giving preference to their citizens when it comes to employment. According to something I read last week your best chance of getting a permit is if you are a skilled butcher, carpenter or a HGV driver….

As a young graduate it might be worth looking at the EU Blue Card option, it is not Switzerland, but it would get you closer to citizenship of a European country that would make moving to Switzerland later a very strong possible.
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Re: Computer Science degree with little to none work experience?

The link you provided, to my knowledge based on discussions on other forums... the website is not legitimate. I'm sure your intention is to provide info on the EU Blue Card but that website, in my experience, is not official. The official European Union website mentions it indirectly.
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Thanks for the replies. I wanted to ask this in my initial question. What about other careers and fields? I can not change the Computer Science bachelor's degree that I have completed of course but I am considering moving out of IT regardless of working in Switzerland, after having research experience in the biomedical field whilst I was working as a software engineer.

In short, are there any careers, outside of IT/engineering that don't require 5+ years of experience before a non-EU national can be in the running for a work permit? Does my computer science degree limit me to such jobs when I am applying or even if a company is offering to hire me for a role not related to my degree?
Short answer - no. Not only does a Swiss employer need to prove they can't find a Swiss/EU national who could do the job, but the prospective employee must have a degree or several years work experience.

"Admissions are limited to managers, specialists and other qualified workers. ‘Qualified workers’ primarily means individuals with a degree from a university or university of applied sciences who also have several years of professional experience. Depending on the profession or the field of specialisation, individuals with special training and several years of professional experience may also be admitted"

It's all outlined here.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...zulassung.html
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Currently there are programs running in Switzerland whereby refugees are given a leg-up to help them to integrate. My former company, a large financial services provider, has embraced the program with enthusiasm. They are getting highly skilled and very motivated IT people with good attitudes at very low cost.

You don't stand a chance.
Got any details? I'm hiring, and would love to know of another source of talent
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Re: Computer Science degree with little to none work experience?

Why the hell would you want to move to CH from US, especially this early in career? Big downgrade in terms of pay and career prospects. The big CS money is in 'merica.

If you're being kicked out due to visa, CH is really an illogical next choice to look up to. 5 years to PR / 10-12 years to citizenship here, both not guaranteed. Go stay in Canada for 3 years, get passport, crawl back to uncle sam on TN.

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Is it possible to get an entry-level IT job that would provide a work permit with no prior experience? Not necessarily a software engineer role, could be even IT support or similar.
Theoretically yes, practically very unlikely unless you're top talent in which case you'd have no problems staying in the US. Forget about "IT support" or other equally un/low/skilled jobs, they definitely ain't going to get you in.
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Why the hell would you want to move to CH from US
Any time anyone asks a question like this you can really tell what their priorities in life are and/or how little they like or appreciate living in CH.
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Any time anyone asks a question like this you can really tell what their priorities in life are and/or how little they like or appreciate living in CH.
srsly? as if money/career is a bad thing to prioritize for a fresh grad? not all of us here are trust fund babies like you
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srsly? as if money/career is a bad thing to prioritize for a fresh grad? not all of us here are trust fund babies like you
Ys, srsly. You can of course make a respectable amount of money and a satisfying long-term career in CH, while also living in a beautiful country with a high quality of life that is located in the centre of Europe and not the other side of the world. Money is not the only factor to consider when choosing a place to live.

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Bwahahaha... I wish!
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Ys, srsly. You can of course make a respectable amount of money and a satisfying long-term career in CH, while also living in a beautiful country with a high quality of life that is located in the centre of Europe and not the other side of the world.
You forgot to mention racist. California isn't exactly dating heaven for brown men (actually, any straight men in general) but i'd still take cali over zurich any time. America is way ahead of europe if you don't pass for a white. Hongcouver isn't a bad second choice for us visa refusees, 40%+ asian (not all chinese)
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I am an Indian in the US with a US-based Bachelor's degree. I have 1 year of software engineering work experience, 2 years of administrative/front desk.

Is it possible to get an entry-level IT job that would provide a work permit with no prior experience? Not necessarily a software engineer role, could be even IT support or similar.

I am new to researching swiss employment and lifestyle, slightly aware that the market is more competitive than usual and that non-EU are at the bottom of preferences. A2 German and French (I know this is not great for this scenario), English native.

Appreciate any help. I have checked some job boards.
Truth to be told I see a lot of non-EU folks getting jobs in CH and not all of them are highly skilled or in top positions. I guess there's a way.....keep applying for whatever positions you think you could match and see how it goes. Unfortunately it is a bad period but nothing is impossible...or you could also try in another European country, if you're set on Europe? Why not Germany, France etc.
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Re: Computer Science degree with little to none work experience?

One reason the OP might not want to be in the US as an Indian citizen is because it takes approximately 150 years (after approval, which can take many years for Indian citizens on its own) to get permanent residency through any employer for Indian citizens, as things stand today. This is a sad thing to share of course, even Indian medical doctors who completed their medical residency in the US and have been serving patients for decades have returned back to India because they have not been provided with their permanent residency despite being approved in 2010 and onwards.

This is separate from the fact that the US has a lottery based work visa system (entirely dependent on luck and a random chance - whether you got offered a job by Google or a kinesiology clinic), which of course applies to citizens of all countries, but I mean if every EU national can get their permanent residency within a few months in the US through the diversity visa program... do they really need a work permit like the others? No they don't. Based on the EU citizens that I know who have settled in the US with no education or work experience.
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One reason the OP might not want to be in the US as an Indian citizen is because it takes approximately 150 years (after approval, which can take many years for Indian citizens on its own) to get permanent residency through any employer for Indian citizens, as things stand today.
Or you can also buy it for only $500k if you don't want to wait - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EB-5_visa
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