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How much should I charge as English nanny?

I am using nanny jobs and private lessons to supplement my income. For reference, I have a BA in English, CELTA, and preliminary US teaching licenses. I am a native English speaker and have over a decade of experience teaching English in both public and private schools. I taught preschool and kindergarten for around 4 of those years. (And I have taken care of children almost all of my life since I come from a large family.)

I am currently being considered for an English nanny job 1 full day a week (7-8 hours). There would be 3 kids between 1-5 years old. I'm not sure yet if they would have nap time (I would assume so) or if I have to make lunch and snacks. The parents are working from home in the house.

What kind of hourly rate should I charge?
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I am using nanny jobs and private lessons to supplement my income. For reference, I have a BA in English, CELTA, and preliminary US teaching licenses. I am a native English speaker and have over a decade of experience teaching English in both public and private schools. I taught preschool and kindergarten for around 4 of those years. (And I have taken care of children almost all of my life since I come from a large family.)

I am currently being considered for an English nanny job 1 full day a week (7-8 hours). There would be 3 kids between 1-5 years old. I'm not sure yet if they would have nap time (I would assume so) or if I have to make lunch and snacks. The parents are working from home in the house.

What kind of hourly rate should I charge?
This might help. https://quitt.ch/en/fair-wages-nanny-switzerland/
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Re: How much should I charge as English nanny?

For 3 kids, 30 francs an hour in my opinion.
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Re: How much should I charge as English nanny?

Just be certain of the working conditions. No house cleaning for example.
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What permit do you hold? If a non-EU B one, then you're not allowed to be self-employed.
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I have a spousal B visa that allows me to work
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Re: How much should I charge as English nanny?

Your permit my say on the back of it something about self-employment not being permitted.


That is OK - as others have said, the employer (family) would need to sign you up either with Quitt or do the taxes/deductions etc themseves.


Nanny rates in Zurich are higher than other places across Switzerland, but yes, between 30-35chf/hour is realistic.


3 kids and both parents in the house + nanny sounds pretty challenging!
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What permit do you hold? If a non-EU B one, then you're not allowed to be self-employed.
It is possible to become self-employed, though, if you apply for it and present your case. I'm non-EU (although just became Swiss last week, too...yay!) and have been self-employed for more than ten years after applying.
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Your permit my say on the back of it something about self-employment not being permitted.


That is OK - as others have said, the employer (family) would need to sign you up either with Quitt or do the taxes/deductions etc themseves.


Nanny rates in Zurich are higher than other places across Switzerland, but yes, between 30-35chf/hour is realistic.


3 kids and both parents in the house + nanny sounds pretty challenging!
Will that be the case though? It's only a few hours a week so I'm not sure they'd have to go through all the usual full time nanny employment requirements.

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It is possible to become self-employed, though, if you apply for it and present your case. I'm non-EU (although just became Swiss last week, too...yay!) and have been self-employed for more than ten years after applying.
From what I read, this is something being done on the side rather than as full employment. The OP says it's to supplement their income so I assume they have another full(ish) time job.
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What permit do you hold? If a non-EU B one, then you're not allowed to be self-employed.

No worries. It's all in hand. I am married to a Swiss citizen and, according to official websites and the wording of my family B permit, I am allowed to seek employment and/or be self-employed. We also are taking care of all the necessary tax and insurance requirements.
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No worries. It's all in hand. I am married to a Swiss citizen and, according to official websites and the wording of my family B permit, I am allowed to seek employment and/or be self-employed. We also are taking care of all the necessary tax and insurance requirements.
Regardless of your permit situation, even for Swiss people, you need permission to be self employed from the Ausgleichskasse. You can’t just “do it” - I know, I tried, they said no (was married to Swiss on B permit at time).
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Re: How much should I charge as English nanny?

From what I read, this is something being done on the side rather than as full employment. The OP says it's to supplement their income so I assume they have another full(ish) time job.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure you're right! I just wanted to point it out in case others thought it wasn't possible at all. It's not an easy process, as you can imagine, but it is possible.
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Regardless of your permit situation, even for Swiss people, you need permission to be self employed from the Ausgleichskasse. You can’t just “do it” - I know, I tried, they said no (was married to Swiss on B permit at time).
Yes, I know. It's all being taken care of right now. I'm not working at all right now and actually am trying to get employment instead of freelancing. So far, I've only been able to find part-time work, hence the nanny gig for a few hours as a supplement.
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It's really easy to set up a legal nanny contract. Just be clear that the law requires the family to be your legal employer and ensure that they pay the deductions etc correctly. Their home is your legal workplace and there are very specific laws applying to that arrangement.



If you pay 'tax at source' there is a flat rate for your second job.



As a non-Swiss I definitely would not get into a situation where I was employed 'black' as if this detected it could impact your application for a C permit in the future.
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If you pay 'tax at source' there is a flat rate for your second job.
Married to a Swiss citizen there should be no tax at source, even with a B permit.
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It's really easy to set up a legal nanny contract. Just be clear that the law requires the family to be your legal employer and ensure that they pay the deductions etc correctly. Their home is your legal workplace and there are very specific laws applying to that arrangement.



If you pay 'tax at source' there is a flat rate for your second job.



As a non-Swiss I definitely would not get into a situation where I was employed 'black' as if this detected it could impact your application for a C permit in the future.

Yes, I know. I am taking care of all that. I just wanted to know the going rates.
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Re: How much should I charge as English nanny?

You might want to browse this website to see what other nannies in your area are asking for.

https://babysitting24.ch/en

This site seeks to connect child care providers - nannies, babysitters, etc. with employers. Looking for dossiers offering similar services to what you plan on offering should give you an idea of what the going rate in your area is.

Most on this site seem to ask for an hourly wage, assuming the family as the legal employer.

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I am using nanny jobs and private lessons to supplement my income. For reference, I have a BA in English, CELTA, and preliminary US teaching licenses. I am a native English speaker and have over a decade of experience teaching English in both public and private schools. I taught preschool and kindergarten for around 4 of those years. (And I have taken care of children almost all of my life since I come from a large family.)

I am currently being considered for an English nanny job 1 full day a week (7-8 hours). There would be 3 kids between 1-5 years old. I'm not sure yet if they would have nap time (I would assume so) or if I have to make lunch and snacks. The parents are working from home in the house.

What kind of hourly rate should I charge?
This sounds like a challenge with both parents working from home. I would definitely get a very clear job description to avoid any misunderstandings. Good luck!
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40 fr per hour
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