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Old 23.01.2023, 17:20
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Re: How important are university grades?

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i getting to a prestigious school has some cachet. but if you have to harp on about it years afterwards, it sends the signal that you haven't achieved much since.
It always reminds me of something...

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Old 23.01.2023, 17:45
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You can have similar effects in Switzerland. Since the OP opens every thread with "I am doing my masters at HSG": The school is famous for its strong network into the Swiss financial sector. However, I would not milk the name too much. I have experienced first hand how some Swiss guys well into their 30s and 40s had to repeatedly mention their alma mater during the first time I met them. I've recently been to a business event where the presenter opened a speech in front of 200 people with "I joined the company just after graduating from... HSG". Cool that you got into a good school, but if you have to bang on about it a decade after graduation... does that not make you look good. In my experience does this only happen with two schools here: HSG and ETH. If your colleague graduated there will he make sure you know the fact. Nobody else cares. I am sure the networks can be a benefit, but I think the mindset people seem to pick up there can also backfire...


Completely agree, however also have to say that having completed a higher executive professional qualification at the USG (already after years of several senior positions) gave me the confidence to brandish it around a bit at interviews .

Wasn’t available during my time, however if I’d really wanted to milk it further, then the EMBA ETH HSG (emba X) would have been a bit more useful after that one

https://es.unisg.ch/en/executive-pro...th-hsg-emba-x/
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Old 23.01.2023, 17:56
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Re: How important are university grades?

I do not use my "HSG alumni" membership as a means to impress others but rather if I happen to come across another alumni, this serves as a common basis (i.e. instant small talk topic).

But then again as a lawyer my non-HSG colleagues simply rib me for attending a "Hochschule" instead of a university...
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Re: How important are university grades?

In my day as far as I know grades only mattered if you wanted to stay in academia... nobody in industry gives much if any weight to them. But in my day very few people went to University [in the UK, 35 years ago], it bit like Switzerland today.

But today in the UK you can get a degree in dog grooming, pot planting and an MBA in table service and waisting your time on the internet. Indeed the local private school to me sells English degrees, so all you need is 100K, no need to even speak Englsh, so I guess grades are becoming a little more important.
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Re: How important are university grades?

It used to be in the UK the big finance houses, city firms etc wanted firsts and 2.1s. Desmonds didn‘t get a look-in. Also at least 2.1 was needed for PhD or other postgrad study.

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It used to be in the UK the big finance houses, city firms etc wanted firsts and 2.1s. Desmonds didn‘t get a look-in. Also at least 2.1 was needed for PhD or other postgrad study.

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Technical detail. There is no GPA in PhD in Switzerland (at least until 2017 in universities, polytechnics no idea) because the requisite for graduation was ZERO courses. Of course, you had to develop damned research and push the boundaries of knowledge, but ZERO courses.
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Technical detail. There is no GPA in PhD in Switzerland (at least until 2017 in universities, polytechnics no idea) because the requisite for graduation was ZERO courses. Of course, you had to develop damned research and push the boundaries of knowledge, but ZERO courses.
Not true for all institutions. Some do give a GPA and make it a requirement for starting a subsequent habilitation.
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It used to be in the UK the big finance houses, city firms etc wanted firsts and 2.1s. Desmonds didn‘t get a look-in. Also at least 2.1 was needed for PhD or other postgrad study.

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Certainly was the case of my daughters- to join any post grad scheme, a 2.1 was the lowest acceptable. All other applications would go straight in the bin and not even looked at.
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Old 26.01.2023, 14:03
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Not true for all institutions. Some do give a GPA and make it a requirement for starting a subsequent habilitation.
The program I completed some years ago with zero courses now requires 12 ECTS credits graduation. A GPA can be calculated from those courses. But, there's a lot of people out there without GPA.

Anyway, 12 or even 20 ECTS credits during 3-4 years of PhD are not that relevant. Bachelors accumulate 180 credits over approximately same period of time because it's full-time studying.

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It seems I misread, sorry for the confusion. A minimum Bachelor GPA is a requisite for starting the program.

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Certainly was the case of my daughters- to join any post grad scheme, a 2.1 was the lowest acceptable. All other applications would go straight in the bin and not even looked at.
What would be the Swiss equivalent of a 2.1? On a scale of 1-6? Around 5~?
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