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18.07.2017, 00:45
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| | Re: [Swiss Job market] English-Speaking Companies | Quote: |  | | | K&N are big international group. Why would they want to employ somebody in Switzerland who doesn't speak German, yet will require a Swiss size salary. They can either easily employ somebody far cheaper in somewhere such as UK to do exact same job, with todays' communications or employ somebody here who speaks 2 or 3 languages fluently for the same salary. | | | | | Why do you always open your mouth without knowing what the hell you're talking about? When I lived in Waedenswil I had a neighbour who worked for that company, and met a few of his colleagues at BBQs. They employ plenty of non-German speakers, and also employ a fair few interns each year, which was what the poster was enquiring about. Their official company language is English, like many big businesses here.
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18.07.2017, 07:12
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| | Re: [Swiss Job market] English-Speaking Companies | Quote: | |  | | | Dear,
I was working in the United Arab Emirates in petroleum company more than 30 years as Receptionist, security and Security Shift leader , controlling CCTV , fire fighting , fire alarms controlling , first aid and HSE. More administrators work supervisor more than 100 security staff and more .
Which to find a sutiable job in the region... | | | | | What Swiss permit do you have? For admin you may need to speak a Swiss language to an acceptable level. Securitas and Protectas are the two main security companies here.
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21.07.2017, 11:32
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Hello! Could anyone recommend any companies working in the renewable energy industry that should be okay with hiring not great (yet aspiring) german speakers at the 3-4 years experience range? Or equally put me out of my misery | 
23.07.2017, 13:50
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Hi,
I have good experience of working in International BPO for American Clients. I also know web Designing. Basically I am an Indian and recently been arrived in Zurich.
As I am a Learning Deutsch (Presently A2). so I would like to get any placement suitable for an English Speaker may be irrelevant to my prior experience.
Before you recommend me any job hunting websites, I must tell you that I have submitted my resume to lots of job offers on lots of websites. I am really tired looking for a simple worker or any small rank job although.
Hope to get some help.
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23.07.2017, 18:36
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Do you have your Swiss permit yet? If not, then wait until you do because you need to be able to put on your CV that you have one. Otherwise, you'll come under the non-EU hiring rules and many employers don't want to bother with that when the emphasis is on hiring people who already live here.
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24.07.2017, 05:44
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Yes I have, and I have mentioned 'Aufenthaltsbewilligung B' already on my Resume. I do get response from everywhere that due to lacking in speaking German, You are not qualified.
But I don't know if I apply to English jobs why they require Deutsch.
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24.07.2017, 08:20
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| | Re: [Swiss Job market] English-Speaking Companies | Quote: | |  | | | Hi,
I have good experience of working in International BPO for American Clients. I also know web Designing. Basically I am an Indian and recently been arrived in Zurich.
As I am a Learning Deutsch (Presently A2). so I would like to get any placement suitable for an English Speaker may be irrelevant to my prior experience.
Before you recommend me any job hunting websites, I must tell you that I have submitted my resume to lots of job offers on lots of websites. I am really tired looking for a simple worker or any small rank job although.
Hope to get some help. | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | ......I do get response from everywhere that due to lacking in speaking German, You are not qualified. But I don't know if I apply to English jobs why they require Deutsch. | | | | | I know from personal experience that job hunting can be dispiriting, but particularly in a 'foreign country', we have no entitlement to a job, especially if we can't speak the language, and have no exceptional skills that are in demand.
That's the simple fact. Instead of looking at this from your perspective, try seeing it from the employer's position. You may have "experience" of things but this isn't the same as having exceptional ability that isn't widely available. You have to ask why an employer would overlook local people, then overlook EU people (the next eligible group), and choose a candidate who doesn't speak the local language, and who doesn't have English as their native language.
If you've no scarce skills, you may have to change your way of thinking. Either develop some sought-after skills, or consider starting your own business -- though again, without German you will struggle when you go out and promote your business.
Your best bet is to improve your German (and English). This is your main barrier, so therefore the thing you need to overcome. If you're here semi-permanently through marriage, for instance, then you have the time to tackle this. Do an immersion course or whatever it takes.
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24.07.2017, 10:03
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| | Re: [Swiss Job market] English-Speaking Companies | Quote: | |  | | | But I don't know if I apply to English jobs why they require Deutsch. | | | | | Because it's (one of) the national language(s), your team members may only speak German, your manager may prefer to speak or hold meetings in German (which is his right given we are in Switzerland here), you may be required to understand instructions in German and so on.
As I wrote recently, I'm amazed how some people think they are entitled to something. They are not, you are not. Jobs won't be thrown at you, here or anywhere else. Switzerland has a high-skilled labor market where pretty much everyone is properly educated. And speaks a few languages, even if not fluently. You are not in a country with a small, well-educated group and large pool of less educated or uneducated one. You are competing with not only Swiss, but a few hundred million Europeans. If you have no skills that make you stand out or do not bring all skills and qualifications that are required (whether justified or not), they will simply not go for you because they have plenty of choice of people that do fulfil all required criteria and then some.
Instead of thinking what they need to do for you, you need to think about what it is that you can do that makes you stand out in a sea of qualified or even overqualified people. Could be learning German to a decent level or learning an extra skill or really anything else you can think of.
Also, how long have you been looking and how many applications have you sent out? It's perfectly normal here to spend 6 or even up to 12 months job-hunting and sending out 50, 100, 200 applications is also not unusual. And yes, that is for people that have qualifications, experience and who speak at least two languages, one or more of which are national ones.
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06.11.2017, 21:02
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Hello there, I came across this tread in hope that you might be able to help me with any information.
I Graduated last year in Civil Engineering and would like to work/live in Switzerland. I just turned 28 and are on par with completing my Baccalaureus Technologiae: Engineering: Civil Urban end of this year 2017.
What options do i have if any in Bern or Zurich or any advice or information you can give me will be highly appreciated. Even if its just for the experience.
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From South Africa
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06.11.2017, 21:11
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| | Re: English Speaking Companies in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | Hello there, I came across this tread in hope that you might be able to help me with any information.
I Graduated last year in Civil Engineering and would like to work/live in Switzerland. I just turned 28 and are on par with completing my Baccalaureus Technologiae: Engineering: Civil Urban end of this year 2017.
What options do i have if any in Bern or Zurich or any advice or information you can give me will be highly appreciated. Even if its just for the experience.
Regards
From South Africa | | | | | Have a look at posts on what is required for non EU to get jobs here first?
What your options are: very very slim. Or do a Masters degree and get your languages up to speed
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06.11.2017, 21:13
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Not a lot I'm afraid Bradley. As a non-EU national you're last in the hiring queue for jobs here since Swiss/EU nationals take priority and it costs a Swiss employer time and money to prove they can't find one of them to do the job. Part of the criteria for non-EUs is that they must have a university degree AND several years of experience - which having just graudated you don't. https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...zulassung.html
If you're serious about this and it's not just a whim because you think the country is beautiful, etc, then get those years of experience and then start applying for jobs and hope that your skills will be unique enough and in demand enough for a Swiss employer to try and get a permit for you.
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25.12.2017, 01:19
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| | Re: English Speaking Companies in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | sunrise (TDC Switzerland) has their official business language in English.
However, if you are customer facing, fluent German would be expected of course, and in reality is used a lot, except in IT )
If you find something interesting, do let me know, because I would get a sign-on bonus http://www.sunrise.ch/en/uebersunris...jobssuchen.htm | | | | | Hi, are you still there? Even though I applied for a position with them, they never got back to me. Would try again though as a particular position is a good match | 
29.07.2019, 16:35
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Hi
Sorry for the thread necromancy but i saw there are few updates here and even less in the topic i saw on the forum so i hope im not duplicating things :
I am planning to move to Switzerland next year and was wondering if anyone here is employed in IT in Zurich area and would be willing to give me some advice or chat about the working norms conditions and likelyhood of getting a job in IT there without fluent German language yet. I am a Test Engineer from UK wanting to move to CH.
Thanks in advance!
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29.07.2019, 17:41
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Firstly, there are quotas to consider.
Secondly, for software testing in English, you’re realistically talking UBS or Credit Suisse, and they’re in bed with Tata, Cognizant, Wipro and Accenture, working hard to outsource the bulk of the work to India.
Obscure skillsets, e.g. Palantir, will help.
Good Luck!
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29.07.2019, 18:23
| | Re: [Swiss Job market] English-Speaking Companies | Quote: | |  | | | Firstly, there are quotas to consider.
Secondly, for software testing in English, you’re realistically talking UBS or Credit Suisse, and they’re in bed with Tata, Cognizant, Wipro and Accenture, working hard to outsource the bulk of the work to India.
Obscure skillsets, e.g. Palantir, will help.
Good Luck! | | | | |
So what quota's are you talking about, there are NO quotas for UK or Polish citizens | 
29.07.2019, 18:32
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Maybe I read this wrong?
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29.07.2019, 19:18
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Thanks for your response
Well I am polish on Polish passport so I'm guessing im not on the quotas list. I live in UK but i am a citizen of an EU country. So what I'm really asking is what's the situation like for English only speakers rather than for Britons.
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29.07.2019, 20:40
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Lots of Poles here in IT, too, so if you have a Polish passport you should be fine - if you join the right firm... that said, again, the big banks are preferring service centres in Poland - they want to minimise IT staff in Switzerland itself because IT staff here is so expensive...
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29.07.2019, 20:50
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Thanks. Well we want to move to Switzerland (both me and my Girlfriend who is also a Senior Tester) not for money but for the country so i hope we will get a job.
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29.07.2019, 21:11
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Keyword search ”Zurich” on jobserve.com to see the sort of thing being advertised...
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