Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Employment  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 15.03.2011, 14:44
Mélusine's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lutry
Posts: 3,891
Groaned at 32 Times in 27 Posts
Thanked 5,509 Times in 2,213 Posts
Mélusine has a reputation beyond reputeMélusine has a reputation beyond reputeMélusine has a reputation beyond reputeMélusine has a reputation beyond reputeMélusine has a reputation beyond reputeMélusine has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Paternity Leave

The law entitles you to 3 days of paid paternity leave. Some companies are more generous, but that's up to them!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Mélusine for this useful post:
  #22  
Old 15.03.2011, 14:48
GenevaSculler's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Geneva
Posts: 1,258
Groaned at 7 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 1,032 Times in 533 Posts
GenevaSculler has a reputation beyond reputeGenevaSculler has a reputation beyond reputeGenevaSculler has a reputation beyond reputeGenevaSculler has a reputation beyond reputeGenevaSculler has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Paternity Leave

Quote:
View Post
The law entitles you to 3 days of paid paternity leave. Some companies are more generous, but that's up to them!
Thanks Mélusine. Do you have happen to have a link to an official website about this, as there seems to be various different opinions in this thread ranging from zero days to three days...
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank GenevaSculler for this useful post:
  #23  
Old 15.03.2011, 14:51
Rangatiranui's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Baden region
Posts: 2,176
Groaned at 14 Times in 13 Posts
Thanked 2,453 Times in 1,079 Posts
Rangatiranui has a reputation beyond reputeRangatiranui has a reputation beyond reputeRangatiranui has a reputation beyond reputeRangatiranui has a reputation beyond reputeRangatiranui has a reputation beyond reputeRangatiranui has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Paternity Leave

Quote:
View Post
..... there seems to be various different opinions in this thread ranging from zero days to three days...
yep... just like labour
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Rangatiranui for this useful post:
  #24  
Old 15.03.2011, 20:48
flacaflaca's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Basel Stadt (Riehen) and Bern
Posts: 63
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 86 Times in 35 Posts
flacaflaca is considered knowledgeableflacaflaca is considered knowledgeableflacaflaca is considered knowledgeable
Re: Paternity Leave

Interesting some say the law entitles you to 3 days. I just started working in January, and the benefits report at my company says that fathers get just 1 day. Not that I'd need it, but it stuck in my memory because I was shocked.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 16.03.2011, 00:38
la mano de dios's Avatar
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 14
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
la mano de dios has no particular reputation at present
Re: Paternity Leave

Quote:
View Post
The law entitles you to 3 days of paid paternity leave. Some companies are more generous, but that's up to them!

so far i know and according to this http://www.news.admin.ch/message/?lang=de&msg-id=35872 law says nothing (Oct. 2010).

"Seit dem 1. Juli 2005 erhalten erwerbstätige Frauen in der Schweiz während 14 Wochen eine Mutterschaftsentschädigung, die 80 Prozent des Erwerbseinkommens deckt. Ein Vaterschaftsurlaub ist in keinem Bundesgesetz geregelt."

Short translation: mother receives 80% of the salary for 14 weeks. The paternity leave is not regulated.

Luckily i was given one week paid by the employer.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank la mano de dios for this useful post:
  #26  
Old 16.03.2011, 09:25
GenevaSculler's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Geneva
Posts: 1,258
Groaned at 7 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 1,032 Times in 533 Posts
GenevaSculler has a reputation beyond reputeGenevaSculler has a reputation beyond reputeGenevaSculler has a reputation beyond reputeGenevaSculler has a reputation beyond reputeGenevaSculler has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Paternity Leave

Quote:
View Post
so far i know and according to this http://www.news.admin.ch/message/?lang=de&msg-id=35872 law says nothing (Oct. 2010).

"Seit dem 1. Juli 2005 erhalten erwerbstätige Frauen in der Schweiz während 14 Wochen eine Mutterschaftsentschädigung, die 80 Prozent des Erwerbseinkommens deckt. Ein Vaterschaftsurlaub ist in keinem Bundesgesetz geregelt."

Short translation: mother receives 80% of the salary for 14 weeks. The paternity leave is not regulated.

Luckily i was given one week paid by the employer.
Thanks for the link La Mano de Dios. From that page it looks like there is an on-going discussion/proposal to give parental leave to both parents, who can then split it between them as they wish. I wonder if it will get enacted before November....
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 16.03.2011, 10:01
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: la cote
Posts: 3,378
Groaned at 19 Times in 12 Posts
Thanked 2,936 Times in 1,565 Posts
runningdeer has a reputation beyond reputerunningdeer has a reputation beyond reputerunningdeer has a reputation beyond reputerunningdeer has a reputation beyond reputerunningdeer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Paternity Leave

If you read 20 minutes today, there is a small article on a 'Geneva proposal' to the National Council for paternity leave. The officials in Bern refused it, something to do with how it was supposed to be financed from maternity leave insurance, etc. Apologies for the crude translation.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank runningdeer for this useful post:
  #28  
Old 15.11.2017, 17:39
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CH
Posts: 10,918
Groaned at 2,041 Times in 1,124 Posts
Thanked 5,139 Times in 3,246 Posts
omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat
Re: Paternity Leave

Where do you think you are? Its Switzerland and you get 1 day. Is that not enough!
Quote:
View Post
Hi all,

I did a quick search but found nothing.

Does anyone have links or know if fathers are eligible for paternity leave in Switzerland?

Thanks
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank omtatsat for this useful post:
  #29  
Old 15.11.2017, 17:41
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ZH
Posts: 7,596
Groaned at 75 Times in 61 Posts
Thanked 11,222 Times in 4,562 Posts
doropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Paternity Leave

Quote:
View Post
..you get 1 day. Is that not enough!
No.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 15.11.2017, 17:45
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CH
Posts: 10,918
Groaned at 2,041 Times in 1,124 Posts
Thanked 5,139 Times in 3,246 Posts
omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat
Re: Paternity Leave

It took a few hundred years for the women to get the vote. And it will take a few hundred years before the men get paternal leave. The system here is stacked against the women.And naturally the man. And anyhow they have now to pay for all those sparkling new jets. So no money money,money!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank omtatsat for this useful post:
This user groans at omtatsat for this post:
  #31  
Old 15.11.2017, 20:46
3Wishes's Avatar
Moderately Amused
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bern area
Posts: 10,956
Groaned at 84 Times in 80 Posts
Thanked 18,348 Times in 8,201 Posts
3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Paternity Leave

Quote:
View Post
Where do you think you are? Its Switzerland and you get 1 day. Is that not enough!
Seriously, what is wrong with you? How do you manage to dig this stuff up??

The post you replied to was made more than 10 years ago! Surely by now OP has it sorted.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post:
  #32  
Old 15.11.2017, 20:51
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ZH
Posts: 7,596
Groaned at 75 Times in 61 Posts
Thanked 11,222 Times in 4,562 Posts
doropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Paternity Leave

Quote:
View Post
The post you replied to was made more than 10 years ago! Surely by now OP has it sorted.
Unlikely, really, since in Switzerland paternity leave is still, these 10 years later, not an automatic legally protected right, neither for the father nor for the child.

Yes, the application of family law in Switzerland has made a general paradigm shift towards placing the well-being of the child first. That's significant progress. Even so, a child's right to be cared for by his/her father is less protected than the protection (such as it is, still rather flimsy) of the child's right to be cared for by his/her mother.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 15.11.2017, 21:10
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Paternity Leave

Quote:
View Post
Where do you think you are? Its Switzerland and you get 1 day. Is that not enough!
Besides that you react to an ancient post your answer is also way to simple.

At my wife her work fathers get 4 weeks and 100% payment.

Switzerland Yeah
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 15.11.2017, 21:28
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ZH
Posts: 7,596
Groaned at 75 Times in 61 Posts
Thanked 11,222 Times in 4,562 Posts
doropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Paternity Leave

Wow, Edwin, that sounds like a good step forward. I have not yet heard of that anywhere in Switzerland, so I'm glad your wife's employer pays for 4 weeks' paternity leave. Great.
Could you please let us know which type of employer that is? For example: large international corporation, cantonal government, medium-sized building company, insurance, educational institution, etc.?
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 15.11.2017, 21:39
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Paternity Leave

Quote:
View Post
Wow, Edwin, that sounds like a good step forward. I have not yet heard of that anywhere in Switzerland, so I'm glad your wife's employer pays for 4 weeks' paternity leave. Great.
Could you please let us know which type of employer that is? For example: large international corporation, cantonal government, medium-sized building company, insurance, educational institution, etc.?
I can also just name them.

Liip. (Swiss web development company with about 150 employees spread over 5 offices throughout Switzerland)

And their family friendly approach has earned them some nice prices.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #36  
Old 15.11.2017, 22:00
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CH
Posts: 10,918
Groaned at 2,041 Times in 1,124 Posts
Thanked 5,139 Times in 3,246 Posts
omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat
Re: Paternity Leave

There are always exceptions but for the average family the father gets one day.


https://sweden.se/quickfact/parental-leave/

Quote:
Besides that you react to an ancient post your answer is also way to simple.

At my wife her work fathers get 4 weeks and 100% payment.

Switzerland Yeah
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank omtatsat for this useful post:
  #37  
Old 15.11.2017, 22:14
3Wishes's Avatar
Moderately Amused
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bern area
Posts: 10,956
Groaned at 84 Times in 80 Posts
Thanked 18,348 Times in 8,201 Posts
3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Paternity Leave

Quote:
View Post
There are always exceptions but for the average family the father gets one day.

https://sweden.se/quickfact/parental-leave/
I don't know about you, but I'm in Switzerland. This link might be more relevant for our readers:

https://www.ch.ch/en/paternity-leave/
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post:
  #38  
Old 15.11.2017, 22:16
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Paternity Leave

Quote:
View Post
There are always exceptions but for the average family the father gets one day.


https://sweden.se/quickfact/parental-leave/
Lets set income tax to 57% and VAT to 25% besides extra "fines" on buying electronics, so the government here also can play for Santa Claus while a lot of people do not feel the need to work anymore since accepting a full time low paid job adds hardly anything to nothing to the monthly net income.

1 day is little, but Sweden has gone insane on the socialism a long time ago, it comes with a price, and that price is high.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #39  
Old 15.11.2017, 22:23
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Paternity Leave

The first time round I got one day, and still had to go in the following Saturday to make up for it.

The second time round, my boss very considerately fired me so it is no longer an issue.

Switzerland.
Reply With Quote
The following 12 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #40  
Old 15.11.2017, 22:59
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Albisrieden
Posts: 5,008
Groaned at 108 Times in 76 Posts
Thanked 7,508 Times in 2,775 Posts
nickatbasel has a reputation beyond reputenickatbasel has a reputation beyond reputenickatbasel has a reputation beyond reputenickatbasel has a reputation beyond reputenickatbasel has a reputation beyond reputenickatbasel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Paternity Leave

You do know you have enough posts to spam Market Place without posting fluff?

Quote:
View Post
Where do you think you are? Its Switzerland and you get 1 day. Is that not enough!
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank nickatbasel for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How Often do you leave Switzerland ? Guest Daily life 12 08.11.2010 16:30
Why I HATE Switzerland. gurutalon Complaints corner 309 30.07.2008 11:12
Husband wont leave apptmnt - just split bails Family matters/health 25 03.08.2007 22:30
Brits leave Blighty in droves AbFab International affairs/politics 22 22.12.2006 14:37
Urgent: unpaid leave + tips on legal aid muze7 Employment 2 01.09.2006 11:54


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:05.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0