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is it normal is switzerland, that an employer tells an job candidate that
she is a high calibre candidate and they really want to work with her, but
also telling her to be patient as they are going to see some other candidates. Thats weird to me, it sounds like your good, but we need to see if we find somebodoy better than you.
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Old 28.03.2009, 11:58
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Re: application procedure

Can't say it has happened to me.... but if it did I wouldn't hold my breath... May be it's worth ringing them and asking them to clarify?
is it a senior position?
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May be it's worth ringing them and asking them to clarify?
is it a senior position?
Well thats the point, they called, after emailing her, telling again that they really want to work with her, but still need to see other candidates.

Its an mid-management position
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Re: application procedure

just a matter of waiting I guess...
sometimes they have to satisfy themselves by interviewing other candidates etc..

gud luck :-)

PS: this is just my personal opinion, so please don't read much from it, I am no expert...

what does everyone else think?
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Old 28.03.2009, 12:56
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Re: application procedure

That is normal. I have been through all this more than once. They will not tell you at your face they have doubts about you, but they are enough interested to keep your name on the top of the list. This thing of being hired on the spot rarely happens here.... Just tell your friend to be patient and not to build too many expectancies. An internal candidate might be cheaper to hire or someone else might be a better fit.
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Re: application procedure

been in that situation myself but not in CH. just go with it.

its not clear what your nationality is. in the current economic/employment climate here in CH it could be that the employer wants to build up a data set for the permit people that proves you are the best candidate. also it would help them with the unemployment assistance people too.
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its not clear what your nationality is. .
netherland origin, therefore it shouldnt be a problem at all.


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also it would help them with the unemployment assistance people too.
What do you mean by that?
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Re: application procedure

Perfectly normal.

I can't imagine an employer only interviewing one person for a job. I've never applied for a job that's been guaranteed, even after the interview, except once when I happened to know someone the boss knew... (don't you just love equal ops?)

Apply for other jobs, but be prepared to say yes to this one, should it be offered to you and you like it.
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What do you mean by that?
if the employer is interviewing people from the unemployment office then when it comes round to getting a permit for non-EUers it looks good for them. they are ticking more of the boxes of being a good business with CH interests in mind first then EU, then the rest (c;

obviously not relevant to you. but at that point i didn't know you were dutch. but it still might improve the employers reputation with authorities.
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Re: application procedure

thx @ all,

I was just wondering about this procedure as in our hemisphere this
wouldnt happen.

If an employer gives you after an interview a very good feedback and aks to be patient is normal I agree, but giving the candidate another feedback, telling again that they really want to work with you and nevertheless asks you
to be patient is weird to me, coz It gives the employer scope to push the salary e.g. and etc.

However my friend applies also for another job, as this one seems to be a waste of time, getting a second feedback within 4 weeks after the interview and she still should be patient is weird to me.
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Dear folks,

is it normal is switzerland, that an employer tells an job candidate that
she is a high calibre candidate and they really want to work with her, but
also telling her to be patient as they are going to see some other candidates. Thats weird to me, it sounds like your good, but we need to see if we find somebodoy better than you.
Hello
The same weird thing happened to me! exactly the same! The employer gave me an excellent feedback, all the interviewers gave me great feedbacks.
I don't know if it's usual here, but just a few weeks ago I went through the selection for a job, I passed all the steps, I received lots of appreciations like I never got before then they told me that they wanted to hire me but I had to wait until they completed the process. So, few days ago they told me they picked another one.
I reckon, this is due to the fact that there are so many candidates around looking for jobs that they neved had before.
It looks like that in these days getting a job is kinda like getting an accomodation here in Zuerich, many similatities came in my mind after compliting the selection process: they might tell you they'd like to hire you but in the end they won't.
As a matter of fact, it's really hard in these days changing job as it always was hard moving to another house. They can pick among hundreds of candidates.

Cheers
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Old 29.03.2009, 13:31
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Re: application procedure

for sure it is normal for an employer to look for all candidates if there is someone better... and I think they are pretty much fair with you to voice this explicitly.
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Re: application procedure

Absolutely normal.

If I was hiring manager I would also take more than 1 in for an Interview.

They are just honest with you

I got a job 3 weeks ago, and that is first time ever I got a "yes" already in the Interview

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If I was hiring manager I would also take more than 1 in for an Interview.
Thats pretty clear !,
however there is at least in my point of view, no need to mention that!

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I think they are pretty much fair with you to voice this explicitly
My experience is that an employe gives a notice within X weeks, and X will told you after the interview.

Maybe thats usual in switzerland, however it sounds weird to me, anyhow appreciate your opinion
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Old 29.03.2009, 17:54
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Re: application procedure

Perfectly normal. Even if I think I've got the right candidate on the first interview, I've still arranged others, and it would be unfair to not give them their chance. And that can take a few days.

Also, while I might favour one specific candidate, there's still usually procedures to go through before a formal offer can be made. You don't want to lose the candidate, but on the other hand, you can't make a firm offer, so you give them very positive feedback.

It has happened to me, that I've gone through the frankly very time-consuming procedure of hiring, and when I've gone to get the signature of some more senior manager, he's refused to sign, having changed his mind, and decided to do another manager a favour by taking someone internal.

Until the formal offer is made, as a candidate, keep your options open. It's good news to get positive feedback, but it isn't a certainty.
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thx @ all,

I was just wondering about this procedure as in our hemisphere this
wouldnt happen.

If an employer gives you after an interview a very good feedback and aks to be patient is normal I agree, but giving the candidate another feedback, telling again that they really want to work with you and nevertheless asks you
to be patient is weird to me, coz It gives the employer scope to push the salary e.g. and etc.

However my friend applies also for another job, as this one seems to be a waste of time, getting a second feedback within 4 weeks after the interview and she still should be patient is weird to me.
I agree with NotAllThere. They might also be still sorting out the situation internally; budget for salary, authorisation to hire from senior management, etc. It could be something more substantial than the manager interviewing you dilly-dallying on a decision, and not really anything to do with the candidates applying for the jobs.

Obviously he is not obliged to go into detail of internal matters with anyone outside of the company.

These are uncertain times and I've heard of people being interviewed and on the brink of joining a company when the budget has been pulled and the job has fallen through at the last minute.
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Re: application procedure

Last year I was interviewed for a job where they told me that they were really interested and interviewed me a second time. Then kept me hanging on for two months. After two months I pushed them for a decision and because I asked they said no.

The reason they gave is that they could not find someone as well qualified as myself to compare me against and that their HR hiring process required them to make a decision between at least two equal candidates. The position being advertised up until the end of last year. Silly really.
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Re: application procedure

Normal.

I even had one company say they really liked me, but had found another candidate who had "perfect sector experience for the job", but if they couldnt agree a deal with that person they would come back to me! At least it was honest, but I'd never taken the job knowing I was second best in their eyes!

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Re: application procedure

All employers I have worked for (more than 5 employers) were required to interview a minimum of 3-5 candidates before deciding and offering the job.

It was also considered 'polite' to interview all applicants who fitted the advertised criteria - those who did not even meet the basic criteria as given in the job advertisement were dumped at first round and hopefully got a letter indicating that they were not successful...but not always do people bother to send letters - or you get them months and months afterwards...
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