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Old 12.04.2009, 20:45
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How is the crisis *really* affecting CH ??

Hey guys.

I've been hearing and reading about the crisis and how it has been affecting the job market. Even saw in swissinfo.ch that the unemployment rate expected for 2010 is around 4,9%.
When I read that it almost makes me laugh sarcastically, apologies to the folks between jobs like myself.
I'll explain:
Here in Portugal the official unemployment from government census is around 8%, wikipedia says it's 7,6% (ok, seems accurate), independant studies reckon it's around 12% in the developed areas and worse in the less populated ones like where I still live. It also excludes a very important fact, that if you're a freelancer or self-employed you won't enter this census because portuguese laws don't give unemployment rights to these people, meaning it's even huger.
Also, PT never had an unemployment rate as low as 5%, at least in modern times. We have created a reputation of a migratory people, emmigrating to countries like Switzerland, Germany and France but not exclusively and I've been told several times that we do have an overall good reputation as workers (which truly surprises me).

So after that, when someone tells me about how hard things are over there in CH, i tend to think people are just not used to bad times and that's good.

The reason i'm posting about this is, seeing i'm moving to CH as jobseeker very soon, would like to hear from your personal experiences there, expats and Swiss naturals alike, what areas are less affected, anything you wish to contribute.

Oh and I hope this doesn't look like a mockery or a rant, times are hard and we're all looking for the same which is success and happiness, so if this could be understood as such it's not intentional.

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Old 12.04.2009, 22:07
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Re: How is the crisis *really* affecting CH ??

I think the market here is actually on the mend, from what it was a few months ago. This is very much my own experience- but in the last weeks, there seem to be more roles advertised, more roles being recruited for through agencies. I'm getting into more interviews.

This may very well be the result of headcount being released because of the new financial year, as opposed to any real upswing in the economy.

I will say this. The biggest factors to date of not scoring a job (for me):

1. The global market.
2. Delay in processing of my work permit. I had a job offer in hand, and lost it because of an error made by my husband's relocation company. You need to be aggressive to make sure this is pushed through.
3. Inadequate language skills. As the job market tightens, so do the requirements held by employers. Generally language skills are high on the list of desirables. My medium level German hasn't been sufficient, so far.
4. Inappropriate application- I've attempted to apply with my two page CV for a position in a Swiss German company. The application style is entirely different. I've learnt to change my application in deference with the company I'm applying to.

As for what you can do to make your job search easier- look very seriously at taking classes to make sure your language skills are reasonable, and improving.

Ensure that you've done your research as to the market you'll be applying for. Find the best agencies that represent your industry. Make sure you're applying in the right way, for that particular job. For instance, I now have multiple CVs (for different types of jobs, as well as for different companies)

Just off the top of my head. Hope your search is successful, and quick!
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Re: How is the crisis *really* affecting CH ??

The unemployment rate is actual for Switzerland 3.4%. This quote represents 134’713 peoples which are registered as unemployed. The actual amount of peoples looking for a job is 191’992 peoples. A part of the differentz comes from the peoples in Switzerland who are registered at the national welfare. The actual national welfare rate is about 3.3 %.

So Switzerland has a higher unemployment rate but it is all a matter of how to calculate the quote

Nerveless, try your luck and come to Switzerland. There are still jobs here as long as you have very good qualifications as e.g. ingenieur. If you are looking for jobs as factory, building or warehouse worker forget it. You will not find many job adds as HR departments are not really interested in sending back 200 - 400 CVs.
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Re: How is the crisis *really* affecting CH ??

Thank you both for the comments.

We will try yeah, and we'll have some money and 3 months to try our luck.

I've recently found out my professional formation enables me for a job that doesn't seem to exist in Switzerland: Gas Technician - The guy that coordinates and checks if everything is going according to laws and regulations in a gas related procedure. Seems this responsability is directly passed to the company doing the works, which makes sense but forces me to try "lower grade" jobs. There are no regulations on this both federally or in any canton I can remember (my search has been done some months ago).

My girlfriend is a graduated psychologist with no work experience because you can't start on your own and nobody can afford paying this line of work, it's considered superfluous. Similar happens with me.

So don't know how we fit as qualified workers but we are motivated and willing to find out. In the whole we consider this will be a win-win experience, as we either find jobs and success there which is our main goal or learn from this and maybe see that the world is more and more the same wherever you go, making us look at our old country with new eyes (somehow this sounded better another time).

Either way, this forum will be the place where we'll be placing our feedback
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For your girlfriend this internet site is maybe of interest http://www.psychologie.ch

It has a job search part and a part for assistant projects to get into the profession in Switzerland.

But as far as I know… for the German, France or Italian part of Switzerland she will probably need to have a B1/B2 level in the language to get the diploma accredited by the authorities of Switzerland.
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