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Of Nationality and Job Market Access

Hi All!

I am a bit stumped and was wondering if you could help me understand the recruitment criteria in this country. Here is my problem. I am a foreigner and need to respond to a question from a rather respectable " international" hospitality management school. I applied for a teaching post and specified in my application that I hold a "newly minted" Permit B which entitles me to work anywhere and in any sector without restrictions.

The school in turn asked me to state my nationality before it could start " analyising" my application. This school boasts of hosting students from 50 countries and I am wondering whether they also have to answer such a question before they are admitted. The last time I responded to a similar question from another school, I was immediately told I was out of the running. What does this all mean?
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Old 21.03.2007, 08:26
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Re: Of Nationality and Job Market Access

Hi Mambo,

Good to see that things are moving on for you.

If you don't give your nationality, what do you imagine will happen to your application?

Yes, I'm sure they ask every student their nationality - how else would they know they have students from 50 different countries?
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Hello!

Thanks for noting my somewhat changed circumstances. Now, I am not really out of the woods as you can see from this fresh bout of adult whining. You are right, this school would ordinarily ask students for their nationality but do you think they are required to provide this information as a condition for having their admission applications "analyzed"? Mark my words, perhaps I might be the problem here; reading too much into an innocuous question. Notice however, my application will only be examined upon responding to this question. I don't know why this is important but it seems sufficiently crucial to the school.

As to what I think will happen if I responded, I will repeat again; the last time a similar question was put to me I responded in a candid fashion and got stung into the bargain, my application was returned to me - no explanation given save for the fact that it was being returned to me!!.If I give my nationality, I am afraid my application will be returned back the same way- hope I am not imagining things here!!

My mentor ( an English gentleman of impeccable credentials) tells me I cannot avoid answering this question however painful it might seem(in his own words) given my previous experience. I am only seeking advice from you all because I need a job but am no longer sure of myself if such questions are thrown at me every time my CV ends on someone's desk. I hope these types of questions are not routine but they sure give me the shivers!
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Old 21.03.2007, 15:41
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Re: Of Nationality and Job Market Access

I'm English and I find the questions asked by the Swiss - not only in job applications - somewhat odd at times. For example the obsession with date of birth. In Brtain this is never asked or given. Here they even ask you it when you enter a competition in the paper.

The fact is that you are asked your nationality here for everything - like ordering a phone, credit card etc. Why should a job be any different. It's the way things are here.

If you don't complete the questions to be "analyzed" - and that too is probably something lost, or added, in translation - you won't get the job. So they ask it and if you want the job, you have to give it...
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Re: Of Nationality and Job Market Access

Hello AdFab,

Thanks for giving me the push and here is what I did. I called the school and asked really nice , what my nationality was doing in the order of processing my application. The response I got gives the term convoluted a new meaning- I really felt sorry for the chap trying to explain the inexplicable. But that's besides the point now- the school wants to see proof of my residence permit which I have happily dispatched though at the back of my mind something tells me my application is already slated for vertical filing. I will let you into the details of the sequel!! Again many thanks for the advice
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Hello AdFab,

Thanks for giving me the push and here is what I did. I called the school and asked really nice , what my nationality was doing in the order of processing my application. The response I got gives the term convoluted a new meaning- I really felt sorry for the chap trying to explain the inexplicable. But that's besides the point now- the school wants to see proof of my residence permit which I have happily dispatched though at the back of my mind something tells me my application is already slated for vertical filing. I will let you into the details of the sequel!! Again many thanks for the advice
Hi Mambo,

I really would not read too much into this yet, the fact is that your name alone on the resume would suggest to them that you are not exactly local, so if the wanted to kill of your resume they could do it right there and then. However, someone turning up on their door step with a B permit already in had might seem s bit strange, so they just may want to check it out before they go any further.

Good Luck,

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