Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Employment  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 22.06.2011, 15:44
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zurich
Posts: 88
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts
Ekaterina has no particular reputation at present
Re: Contract vs Permanent - Questions

I googled some link: http://www.euraxess.ch/fileadmin/use...l_10_pages.pdf

I'm not sure if the absolute values are up to date there, but it makes some sence for me know!
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 22.06.2011, 16:39
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Zurich
Posts: 406
Groaned at 15 Times in 12 Posts
Thanked 153 Times in 94 Posts
Harrie Nak has earned some respectHarrie Nak has earned some respect
Re: Contract vs Permanent - Questions

Maybe I'm used to IT contract rates, but it sounds a bit odd to me. Looking at the salary, this is no contracting position, but on the other hand it has a fixed term. It's like the employer tries to get best of both worlds.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 22.06.2011, 16:53
adrianlondon's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 9,169
Groaned at 171 Times in 154 Posts
Thanked 25,643 Times in 6,892 Posts
adrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Contract vs Permanent - Questions

Ignore all this sideline stuff about IT contractors, hourly rates and freelancers.

I read the OP as having received a standard employment contract, full time as an employee, but with a defined end-date. It may mean permit issues (L instead of B) and, of course, the job will end after 2 years. Everything else will correspond to a standard Swiss employment contract; following all the relevant laws etc.

130K is a decent salary for Basel, as a permie. The fixed term contract is unusual though.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 22.06.2011, 17:00
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 482
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 267 Times in 168 Posts
gourmet is considered knowledgeablegourmet is considered knowledgeablegourmet is considered knowledgeable
Re: Contract vs Permanent - Questions

Quote:
View Post
Maybe I'm used to IT contract rates, but it sounds a bit odd to me. Looking at the salary, this is no contracting position, but on the other hand it has a fixed term. It's like the employer tries to get best of both worlds.
I have been on one of those when I first started out. The company had a big project going on and they do not want to take on loads of "junior" staff that they need to get rid of at the end. So they get in a load of fixed contract staff that were paid slightly more than agency staff with holiday etc but not pension. At then end of project, no reduncy so save quite a bit at the end.

It suited me then as I first started out with "no" skills and at the end of contract, I gained a lot of skills that I can then use on my CV.

OP need to take into account that if you are living full time here, then the salary might be enough but not if you need to keep UK going as well.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 22.06.2011, 17:25
fatmanfilms's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Verbier
Posts: 18,428
Groaned at 344 Times in 275 Posts
Thanked 18,014 Times in 9,757 Posts
fatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Contract vs Permanent - Questions

FWIW you will be entitled to 400 days unemployment pay at the end of the contract.

70% or 80% of 10500 a month.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 08.07.2011, 22:53
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Basel
Posts: 104
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts
lala has slipped a little
Re: Contract vs Permanent - Questions

Quote:
View Post
I'm currently applying for a job in Basel. It's a 2 year contract and I'd like some info on the pros/cons of taking a contract position in Switzerland. For example, in the UK pension wouldn't usually be included for a contractor, but looks like it is here. Would medical insurance be included? What about annual leave? Heaven forbid I should fall pregnant during the contract, but what would happen then? I understand the lack of guarantee of a permanent job, but if someone could help me understand the main differences, that would be great.

Also, any idea what the net salary from CHF 130k gross would look like??

Here's a snippit from the job spec:

[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']....We are currently looking to recruit a XXX Specialist based in Basel with a fixed term contract of two years. After the fixed term contract permanents employment is possible without guarantee however. [/FONT]

[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Remuneration / contract:
Circa CHF 130,000 base salary
+ 12% STI bonus
+ contributory DC pension (including Life & Disability insurances)
+ relocation assistance as necessary
+ fixed term contract (2 years)
Swiss employment contract
[/FONT]
Hi

Looks like a good contract anyway...

Here some facts
  • In any job that takes longer than 3 months it is mandatory that pension contributions are made by yourself and the employer
  • Private medical insurance coverage is usually not covered by employers in Switzerland, be it permament or fixed-term. Only sick-leave insurance and accident insurance usually belong to the package (however, sometimes these contributions are deducted from your pay)
  • Annual leave has to be included, if you get paid by hour then a certain percentage (usually between 8% and 10%) of money has to be put on top of your normal salary. At the end of the month, the employer withholds this funds to settle you during the time you are on vacation. If you get paid by month, then you can usually take your normal days off as your permament co-workers do. It looks as this is the case in your contract.
Cheers, lala
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 08.07.2011, 23:13
fatmanfilms's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Verbier
Posts: 18,428
Groaned at 344 Times in 275 Posts
Thanked 18,014 Times in 9,757 Posts
fatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Contract vs Permanent - Questions

Quote:
View Post
Hi

  • Annual leave has to be included, if you get paid by hour then a certain percentage (usually between 8% and 10%) of money has to be put on top of your normal salary. At the end of the month, the employer withholds this funds to settle you during the time you are on vacation. If you get paid by month, then you can usually take your normal days off as your permament co-workers do. It looks as this is the case in your contract.
Cheers, lala
I often find they don't want to add holiday pay to day rates, so I quote a rate including but as for 8.33% as well, sometimes I get it but not always.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 08.07.2011, 23:59
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Zurich Oberland
Posts: 523
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 470 Times in 239 Posts
woolly has an excellent reputationwoolly has an excellent reputationwoolly has an excellent reputationwoolly has an excellent reputation
Re: Contract vs Permanent - Questions

Since the original question is over 2 years old, perhaps the OP can come back and tell us whether she got the job and how it all worked out :-)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
contract, job




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
L permit, new EU, permanent contract, expiry coming finesse Permits/visas/government 1 07.04.2009 17:17
L for permanent contract??? finesse Permits/visas/government 5 22.05.2008 16:18
Leaving permanent employment for IT contract work (in / out of CH) squeeky123 Employment 5 03.03.2008 22:36
Notice period going from fixed to permanent contract Tedwah Employment 13 04.12.2007 17:03


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 21:57.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0