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07.07.2009, 14:56
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Hi,
I have recently been offered a position as AD/Senior Graphic Designer at an international company in Switzerland and even though their offer seems fair compared to what I am currently earning, I can't help to think that its a little low compared to the swiss salary levels.
Any ideas what kind of numbers we are looking at here, 10+ years experience.
Cheers,
Ken
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07.07.2009, 14:58
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| | Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position
If you give me a job if you take the position I'll help you out on salary | 
07.07.2009, 16:23
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| | Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position
Sorry, seems that I forgot to pop the question.. My question is; How much is the average salary for a Senior Designer / Art Director in Switzerland?
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07.07.2009, 16:53
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ah well I have no idea - sorry can't help, have you searched for similar jobs here on the job boards? I thought maybe you had been offered a salary already
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07.07.2009, 18:06
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Ken, you can expect anything from CHF4,000 to CHF20,000+, it all really depends on your clients and the book you bring. If you're in five figures a month it's alright (natch) but as you'll know, the client is key to size of the pot you can expect.
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07.07.2009, 18:24
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ahhhhh 20k a month........ if only.......
Ken if you PM me more details i can tell you how much i charge freelance etc.. compared to what I got paid in the UK, might help give a comparison
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24.07.2009, 12:32
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Hmm, well I've been offered 70k which seems ok, comparing it with what I've been paid here in Paris, but still can't shake the feeling that's it a little bit low in Zurich. Ah well, lacking anything to compare with I guess I have no other choice but to accept.
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24.07.2009, 14:37
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Did you tell them what you are currently earning?
It does seem a little low for someone with long, international experience, especially for a big company. You'll get by, but it's kinda lowly. You can earn that amount as a temp in backoffice. I'd push for double, settle for a bit under.
The rotters.
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18.08.2011, 18:43
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Hello guys, is this thread still going? I would like to find out similar stuff...
How much can I expect for purely Digital - Creative Director. Have 9 years of experience and ran some massive campaigns in London. Worked on lots of blue chip clients.
Salary in london around £70k.
Would you be able to suggest what is the match in Switzerland? My guess is ... 150K ish?
Also has anyone went to Switzerland to freelance? I dont have any contacts there.
thx,
M.
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18.08.2011, 19:27
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| | Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position | Quote: | |  | | | Hello guys, is this thread still going? I would like to find out similar stuff...
How much can I expect for purely Digital - Creative Director. Have 9 years of experience and ran some massive campaigns in London. Worked on lots of blue chip clients.
Salary in london around £70k.
Would you be able to suggest what is the match in Switzerland? My guess is ... 150K ish?
Also has anyone went to Switzerland to freelance? I dont have any contacts there.
thx,
M. | | | | | Advertising rates are far higher in London, Switzerland is tiny everything has to be in 4 languages, it's not like Banking. Expect nearer 100, & zero creativity, in other words don't bother.
And to the OP, everybody other than a trainee is called 'senior'.
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thanks.... i have an offer from client side company. they are offering 70K ish. but i feel that is really low. Average income in Zurich in IT etc. is 118K.
I have above average in London, I would like at least average in Switzerland.. Just seen rental rates and they are more than London too
Anyone else working in Digital in Switzerland. I really am Senior. Not just passed trainee. 2 Universities and lots of experience. 70K seems rip off
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18.08.2011, 20:06
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| | Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position | Quote: | |  | | | thanks.... i have an offer from client side company. they are offering 70K ish. but i feel that is really low. Average income in Zurich in IT etc. is 118K.
I have above average in London, I would like at least average in Switzerland.. Just seen rental rates and they are more than London too
Anyone else working in Digital in Switzerland. I really am Senior. Not just passed trainee. 2 Universities and lots of experience. 70K seems rip off | | | | | 70K could well be average in Advertising is not IT! People working in TV are earning nearer 50K, local TV freelance rates 250 a day .
Budgets are low, there are very few real senior possitions, everybody knows someone with a sister who has a mac & an iphone4.
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19.08.2011, 11:54
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i see where you are coming from. where do you live? I am considering LUZERN. trying to get together living costs.
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19.08.2011, 11:57
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| | Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position | Quote: | |  | | | i see where you are coming from. where do you live? I am considering LUZERN. trying to get together living costs. | | | | | I am Zurich based but travel, I came for the skiing.....
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i am getting above average in London in digital media. 75K is a very good salary in london.
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19.08.2011, 12:14
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freelance rates in graphic design here are around 110chf to 160chf an hour. 70k I feel is way too low - will PM you
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19.08.2011, 12:15
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| | Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | It's difficult to know how many people are counted once you get to advertising & marketing, possibly 6 people or less, it's a tiny business. Even for major Clients they just modify the international version or even use the Albanian version. (US Major soft drinks Co)
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19.08.2011, 12:17
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| | Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position | Quote: | |  | | | freelance rates in graphic design here are around 110chf to 160chf an hour. 70k I feel is way too low - will PM you | | | | | But how many hours a month do you work?
Adverising cameraman rates @1500 a day, some months 0 days, it's a bad year.
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| | Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position | Quote: | |  | | | But how many hours a month do you work?
Adverising cameraman rates @1500 a day, some months 0 days, it's a bad year. | | | | | I work 3 days a week in-house
I answered with the freelance rates as he asked about freelancing also
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| | Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position | Quote: | |  | | | thanks.... i have an offer from client side company. they are offering 70K ish. but i feel that is really low. Average income in Zurich in IT etc. is 118K.
I have above average in London, I would like at least average in Switzerland.. Just seen rental rates and they are more than London too
Anyone else working in Digital in Switzerland. I really am Senior. Not just passed trainee. 2 Universities and lots of experience. 70K seems rip off | | | | | Go for it money isn't everything CH is much better than London! | Quote: | |  | | | i see where you are coming from. where do you live? I am considering LUZERN. trying to get together living costs. | | | | | Luzern is stunning no better place get your a** over here!!
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