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Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position

Hi,

I have recently been offered a position as AD/Senior Graphic Designer at an international company in Switzerland and even though their offer seems fair compared to what I am currently earning, I can't help to think that its a little low compared to the swiss salary levels.

Any ideas what kind of numbers we are looking at here, 10+ years experience.


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Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position

If you give me a job if you take the position I'll help you out on salary
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Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position

Sorry, seems that I forgot to pop the question.. My question is; How much is the average salary for a Senior Designer / Art Director in Switzerland?
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Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position

ah well I have no idea - sorry can't help, have you searched for similar jobs here on the job boards? I thought maybe you had been offered a salary already
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Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position

Ken, you can expect anything from CHF4,000 to CHF20,000+, it all really depends on your clients and the book you bring. If you're in five figures a month it's alright (natch) but as you'll know, the client is key to size of the pot you can expect.

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Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position

ahhhhh 20k a month........ if only.......

Ken if you PM me more details i can tell you how much i charge freelance etc.. compared to what I got paid in the UK, might help give a comparison
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Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position

Hmm, well I've been offered 70k which seems ok, comparing it with what I've been paid here in Paris, but still can't shake the feeling that's it a little bit low in Zurich. Ah well, lacking anything to compare with I guess I have no other choice but to accept.
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Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position

Did you tell them what you are currently earning?

It does seem a little low for someone with long, international experience, especially for a big company. You'll get by, but it's kinda lowly. You can earn that amount as a temp in backoffice. I'd push for double, settle for a bit under.

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Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position

Hello guys, is this thread still going? I would like to find out similar stuff...

How much can I expect for purely Digital - Creative Director. Have 9 years of experience and ran some massive campaigns in London. Worked on lots of blue chip clients.

Salary in london around £70k.

Would you be able to suggest what is the match in Switzerland? My guess is ... 150K ish?


Also has anyone went to Switzerland to freelance? I dont have any contacts there.

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Hello guys, is this thread still going? I would like to find out similar stuff...

How much can I expect for purely Digital - Creative Director. Have 9 years of experience and ran some massive campaigns in London. Worked on lots of blue chip clients.

Salary in london around £70k.

Would you be able to suggest what is the match in Switzerland? My guess is ... 150K ish?


Also has anyone went to Switzerland to freelance? I dont have any contacts there.

thx,
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Advertising rates are far higher in London, Switzerland is tiny everything has to be in 4 languages, it's not like Banking. Expect nearer 100, & zero creativity, in other words don't bother.

And to the OP, everybody other than a trainee is called 'senior'.
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Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position

thanks.... i have an offer from client side company. they are offering 70K ish. but i feel that is really low. Average income in Zurich in IT etc. is 118K.

I have above average in London, I would like at least average in Switzerland.. Just seen rental rates and they are more than London too

Anyone else working in Digital in Switzerland. I really am Senior. Not just passed trainee. 2 Universities and lots of experience. 70K seems rip off
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thanks.... i have an offer from client side company. they are offering 70K ish. but i feel that is really low. Average income in Zurich in IT etc. is 118K.

I have above average in London, I would like at least average in Switzerland.. Just seen rental rates and they are more than London too

Anyone else working in Digital in Switzerland. I really am Senior. Not just passed trainee. 2 Universities and lots of experience. 70K seems rip off
70K could well be average in Advertising is not IT! People working in TV are earning nearer 50K, local TV freelance rates 250 a day .
Budgets are low, there are very few real senior possitions, everybody knows someone with a sister who has a mac & an iphone4.
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Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position

i see where you are coming from. where do you live? I am considering LUZERN. trying to get together living costs.
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i see where you are coming from. where do you live? I am considering LUZERN. trying to get together living costs.
I am Zurich based but travel, I came for the skiing.....
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Re: Avarage Salary - Art Director / Senior Designer position

http://www.payscale.com/research/CH/...zerland/Salary

i am getting above average in London in digital media. 75K is a very good salary in london.
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freelance rates in graphic design here are around 110chf to 160chf an hour. 70k I feel is way too low - will PM you
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i am getting above average in London in digital media. 75K is a very good salary in london.
It's difficult to know how many people are counted once you get to advertising & marketing, possibly 6 people or less, it's a tiny business. Even for major Clients they just modify the international version or even use the Albanian version. (US Major soft drinks Co)
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freelance rates in graphic design here are around 110chf to 160chf an hour. 70k I feel is way too low - will PM you
But how many hours a month do you work?

Adverising cameraman rates @1500 a day, some months 0 days, it's a bad year.
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But how many hours a month do you work?

Adverising cameraman rates @1500 a day, some months 0 days, it's a bad year.
I work 3 days a week in-house

I answered with the freelance rates as he asked about freelancing also
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thanks.... i have an offer from client side company. they are offering 70K ish. but i feel that is really low. Average income in Zurich in IT etc. is 118K.

I have above average in London, I would like at least average in Switzerland.. Just seen rental rates and they are more than London too

Anyone else working in Digital in Switzerland. I really am Senior. Not just passed trainee. 2 Universities and lots of experience. 70K seems rip off
Go for it money isn't everything CH is much better than London!

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i see where you are coming from. where do you live? I am considering LUZERN. trying to get together living costs.
Luzern is stunning no better place get your a** over here!!
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