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PhD salary???

Hi all, I'm soon going to start my PhD study in the University of Bern. I was initially told that my gross salary would be about 2750 CHF per month. But my supervisor later said, after reductions, I could get only 2100 CHF per month!

Is this high reduction specific for Bern region, or am I missing something? Is PhD studentship considered a full time or part time job in Switzerland? I had heard that some of the tax will be paid back to me at the end of my study, is this true??

My German is not great and I was not able to find anything in English concerning these, so any info would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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Old 24.04.2007, 07:48
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Re: PhD salary???

I work at the University of Lausanne. I'm not a PhD student, but as far as I know the students are funded at a minimum of a 60% wage, which would be similar to the 2750 per month that you were told. If the supervisor has enough funding then this amount can be increased up to a 100% wage at some time in the future. I agree, that does sound like more deductions than I would expect on that sort of wage, so I would ask further about that.
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Re: PhD salary???

Ohhhhh you work at University of Lausanne? Can you tell me whether any of their International Relations courses (undergrad) are taught in English? Their website search engine doesnt seem to work!



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I work at the University of Lausanne. I'm not a PhD student, but as far as I know the students are funded at a minimum of a 60% wage, which would be similar to the 2750 per month that you were told. If the supervisor has enough funding then this amount can be increased up to a 100% wage at some time in the future. I agree, that does sound like more deductions than I would expect on that sort of wage, so I would ask further about that.
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Re: PhD salary???

Although the topic is a little old, it seems to fit right into what I am looking for. I am looking for a PHD in IT with any kind of funding. What I mean is that I would like to be able to work at the same time for the PHD.
However, I am not sure how to look for it. How is the proper way to do this? I mean do I have to look for a job by myself, outside the university? Or should I ask if the PHD programme covers such a thing?

Any personal experience would be appreciated.
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Old 24.04.2007, 08:40
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Re: PhD salary???

My husband is finishing up his PhD at University of Bern. His gross salary is around CHF 4'500/month and gets around CHF 3'700 after deductions.
I can assure you that his PhD is a full-time job, which also includes seminars, presentations, lectures on WEEKENDS in Switzerland, Europe & other parts of the world. Here is the catch though: overtime pays are non-existent.
As far as his department (PhD @ the Medical Faculty) is concerned, German is not necessary, as English is their official language.
Hope these infos could help you..

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I was initially told that my gross salary would be about 2750 CHF per month. But my supervisor later said, after reductions, I could get only 2100 CHF per month!
Is PhD studentship considered a full time or part time job in Switzerland? I had heard that some of the tax will be paid back to me at the end of my study, is this true??
My German is not great and I was not able to find anything in English concerning these, so any info would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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Re: PhD salary???

The standard salary for federal uni (ETHZ, EPFL) is 60% that is about 3100 CHF/month gross. The standard salary for kanton uni is 50% that is about 2750CHF/month like what you get. 2100CHF after tax is pretty low I guess.

Depending on your department & professor, you can get up to 100%. Normally if you do engineering (also computer science), you get better than science.

By the way, PhD is considered a full time job. There are several types of tax & deduction that I am really confused either but you can only get back the part of the tax that contributes to your social welfare when you are old. I think that amount is about 7-10% of your salary every month.
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Re: PhD salary???

I'm working in research also in Bern and I should say that is about what I am getting. The 4700 Sfr/month is already considered exceptional. there are some variation between cantons but in general this variation is small.
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Old 24.04.2007, 09:34
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Re: PhD salary???

Like ChrisW, I'm a post-doc at the University of Lausanne. Some PhD students I know here get about 2800CHF after deductions (which is more-or-less what others have suggested). 2100 seems a bit low. Perhaps you should ask for clarification from your potential supervisor, saying that you have heard others are getting more. It might make him up his offer (if such a thing can be done)?

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Like ChrisW, I'm a post-doc at the University of Lausanne. Some PhD students I know here get about 2800CHF after deductions (which is more-or-less what others have suggested). 2100 seems a bit low. Perhaps you should ask for clarification from your potential supervisor, saying that you have heard others are getting more. It might make him up his offer (if such a thing can be done)?
The lowest PhD salary people I know get is about 2400CHF after deduction.
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4700 Sfr/month is already considered exceptional.
exceptional?? and i always complain that my husband's negotiating skills are rusty..
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Re: PhD salary???

believe me, in research/phD it is...it's not that his negotiating skills are rusty... In a post doc here in Insel probably then he can negotiate. but while doing your PhD he should already be happy he's getting 4700.
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exceptional?? and i always complain that my husband's negotiating skills are rusty..
Are you sure your husband is PhD student, not a post-doc ? This is approximately what a post-doc would make?
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I can assure you that his PhD is a full-time job, which also includes seminars, presentations, lectures on WEEKENDS in Switzerland, Europe & other parts of the world. Here is the catch though: overtime pays are non-existent.
It is an incorrect assumption to correlate getting your PhD to an actual job. It's school, you're still being educated. Of course there isn't overtime. You're getting paid to further your education and the amount of research you get done is fully dependent upon yourself. If you wanna get done in a reasonable amount of time and start making actual money then you're gonna need to work more. And in general, salaried positions don't get paid overtime.
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Re: PhD salary???

Hye guys, am new 2 this, but I am going to start my PhD next month in Bern. Can anyone tell me about the salary, am going to join in inselpital and its funded by snf.What will be the gross and the net salary(take home).
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Hye guys, am new 2 this, but I am going to start my PhD next month in Bern. Can anyone tell me about the salary, am going to join in inselpital and its funded by snf.What will be the gross and the net salary(take home).
Cheers
This has already been discussed in the beginning of the thread, but just to give you some idea, my husband is also doing his PhD at Inselspital and began with CHF2,750 (gross) per month, and that's again same as what was discussed earlier in the thread, but that salary increases year to year depending on the funding received. Hubby also receives the 13 months pay. It's just enough to scrape by month to month, after rent, household expenses, various other bills and the killer health insurance payments.

Well... each person has a different experience... that's just my 2 cents (or rappen)
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Re: PhD salary???

For PhD in ETH, Zurich, usually one can get more than 4000 per month

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Hi all, I'm soon going to start my PhD study in the University of Bern. I was initially told that my gross salary would be about 2750 CHF per month. But my supervisor later said, after reductions, I could get only 2100 CHF per month!

Is this high reduction specific for Bern region, or am I missing something? Is PhD studentship considered a full time or part time job in Switzerland? I had heard that some of the tax will be paid back to me at the end of my study, is this true??

My German is not great and I was not able to find anything in English concerning these, so any info would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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Re: PhD salary???

IC at EPFL used to be well paid a couple of years ago, starting net was 4000+ . However, this has been reduced plenty and starting net is now at 3200 .


There are two ways to enter IC@EPFL .

1. Apply through EDIC , then you will be invited to find a hosting lab within 1 year period, during which you shall be paid the normal phd salary.
2. You can try to see for open positions, or send a spontaneous application to the lab of your interest. If a professor agrees to hire you, then you should not care about the rest.
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Re: PhD salary???

Hi everyone.
My wife and I are planning to come Switzerland next fall to attend studies. However there is an aspect that we need to have clear to go on in the process. Situation is as follows, and is regarding the income from the fellowship she got awarded by Uni Lausanne. The university establishes the fellowship for the PhD is 58K CHF gross/year (100%). However, now that she has begun arranging all documents and the contract, there are two versions about the net income she would earn, one of her thesis director, stating that the sum is higher, even more, because he offered an additional teaching assistant that would sum up to the income from the fellowship, and the other one is from the office in charge of the contract at the department school, that states the contract will be on a 80% basis and that renders a 3.7K CHF/month net, initially, because now she was informed that if she accepts the teaching assistantship the salary would not increase but instead decrease to a final 2.9K CHF/month net. The bottom line is this will render a final tax deduction higher than the 16% we know for the Canton Vaud. This does not make sense for us, taking into consideration that as assistant she will have further activities and responsibilities. Is it not allowed to get a salary from the fellowship and the teaching assistant at the same time?
Anyone with experience in this issues. Help regarding this, in order to get the fair salary, will be very appreciated.
Thanks.
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Salary of a PhD in Computer Science

I'm 25 years old PhD student in Computer Science in Paris11 University (TOP 10 EU). As an engineer I have great skills in programming (8 years of C++ and C#,MATLAB; .NET, COM/ATL), as a PhD I have strong background in optimization and machine learning.
I'm going to find a well paid job in french part of Switzerland (I speak french) after the defence of my thesis this winter. I know that the salary of post-docs is approx. 60-80k and I like the research very much, but I don't want to postdocing for 3-6 years as we have to do now in science. I'm non-EU citizen.
My question is rather banal (I spent one day to read the forum before ask this question :
what is the salary I can expect?
what is the salary of some financial engineer or of somebody who is not only a programmer, but also know how all these new optimization + machine learning tricks work?
Thank you in advance for your answer
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