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Notice period & forced out of my job

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I am being forced out of my job. Yes I told my boss I wasnt happy after the company paid for me & my family to move here, yes I said I wanted to find another job in the company...but I didn't resign. But what my boss did was recruited my replacement who starts in a few weeks & now I have been given a letter that says I have till 31 January to find a new role in the company, then should efforts to find a new job internally not be successful my employment will be terminated on 30 April following a notice period of 3 months starting 1 Feb.

Does anyone know if I will be required to work the 3 months notice?

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Old 16.10.2009, 14:14
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Does anyone know if I will be required to work the 3 months notice?
Unless you come to an agreement with the employer (be that a new position or to leave the company early in mutual agreement), yes, you will be required to work until the contract finishes.

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I am being forced out of my job. Yes I told my boss I wasnt happy after the company paid for me & my family to move here, yes I said I wanted to find another job in the company...
Seems to me like you forced yourself out of your job... why would any employer want to keep someone who actively tells them they want to work for another company?

EDIT - Uck, epic mis-read, sorry...

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Old 16.10.2009, 14:26
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Seems ot me like you forced yourself out of your job... why would any employer want to keep someone who actively tells them they want to work for another company?
i believe he said he wanted another job IN the company
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Re: Notice period & forced out of my job

I skimmed and mis-read, sorry.

If they are forcing you out after applying internally then that is pretty dastardly to be honest... in fact would you not have good grounds for formal complaint or legal action?
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Re: Notice period & forced out of my job

A bit of a tricky situation there.
You should have maybe waited to find that other job in the company first ... and also, without you resigning first, I wonder whether they can just go ahead and hire someone to replace you ... (???)
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Does anyone know if I will be required to work the 3 months notice?
I believe the typical position is washroom attendant for the last 3 months here in Switzerland. Good luck finding another position.
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Re: Notice period & forced out of my job

Since you are non EU, its not easy to change jobs within the company. You B-permit is granted for this specific role/position
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Old 16.10.2009, 14:49
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Re: Notice period & forced out of my job

If the company can afford it, why not?


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A bit of a tricky situation there.
You should have maybe waited to find that other job in the company first ... and also, without you resigning first, I wonder whether they can just go ahead and hire someone to replace you ... (???)
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Old 16.10.2009, 14:54
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Re: Notice period & forced out of my job

Why would that be dastardly? I would probably do the same if I were the company. What is the point in having someone hired that aren't happy? And why on earth should there be grounds for legal actions? She is even getting the opportunity to continue her job for a while while looking. I would probably have dismissed such a person directly. Honoring the notice period though of course.

As I see it, this company seems to have fulfilled its obligation to the fullest.


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I skimmed and mis-read, sorry.

If they are forcing you out after applying internally then that is pretty dastardly to be honest... in fact would you not have good grounds for formal complaint or legal action?
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Old 16.10.2009, 14:57
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Re: Notice period & forced out of my job

Yeah, although it is not how we would handle it back home, 3 months to find a new position and otherwise a further 3 months notice isn't terrible behaviour. Heopfully you can find the new position within 3 months, which is what you requested in the first place, no?

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I would probably have dismissed such a person directly. Honoring the notice period though of course.
Glad you're not my boss.
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Why would that be dastardly? I would probably do the same if I were the company. What is the point in having someone hired that aren't happy? And why on earth should there be grounds for legal actions? She is even getting the opportunity to continue her job for a while while looking. I would probably have dismissed such a person directly. Honoring the notice period though of course.

As I see it, this company seems to have fulfilled its obligation to the fullest.
Because it's very poor form to terminate someone employment and replace them instantly because they applied for another position within the same company. Your attitude is very callous if you would dismiss them on the spot for something like that.
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Re: Notice period & forced out of my job

Im not interested in legal action, I am Ok with the 6 months they have given me.

My question was do I have to work the notice period?
Is it customary in CH that I would work or will they pay me 3 months & tell me to stay out of the office?
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Re: Notice period & forced out of my job

I think the point which is missing is why you wanted to change roles in the job and what you said to your boss?

Why was this job which convinced you to move to Zurich with your family so quickly turn out to be something different than you expected?
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Old 16.10.2009, 15:06
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Re: Notice period & forced out of my job

Usually you are expected to work.


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Im not interested in legal action, I am Ok with the 6 months they have given me.

My question was do I have to work the notice period?
Is it customary in CH that I would work or will they pay me 3 months & tell me to stay out of the office?
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Re: Notice period & forced out of my job

sorry but between this and your other thread your not painting a very good picture of yourself! you don't like your job, want to leave early and also want to claim unemployment. And expats wonder why the swiss are so pissed off with us
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Re: Notice period & forced out of my job

I wouldn't dismiss them on the spot. I would dismiss them honoring the notice period. I really don't see the callousness of that. As a manager you have to look for the best for the company or you may risk everybody's job in the end. Both parties have signed a contract which clearly states the terms and conditions. There is no point in having someone working for you who doesn't want to be there. Better then to let the person go and hire someone else that hopefully likes the job better. Assuming of course that you can find staff easily. If you can't you may consider keeping the person and in parallel look for someone else.

Admittedly I don't always act as I should. Sometimes I have let people stay on that obviously wasn't motivated or interested. In hindsight I can tell you though that in all cases it would have been a lot better for the company had I dismissed them right away. Would have saved me a lot of time, worries and money.


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Because it's very poor form to terminate someone employment and replace them instantly because they applied for another position within the same company. Your attitude is very callous if you would dismiss them on the spot for something like that.
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sorry but between this and your other thread your not painting a very good picture of yourself! you don't like your job, want to leave early and also want to claim unemployment. And expats wonder why the swiss are so pissed off with us

Well, my job turned out to be not what I was recruited for - I was meant to be a manager instead Im treated like a graduate. My boss has only been nice since he got my replacement. I want to leave this job early so I can get out of this depression Im in as it is affecting my home life (I have 2 children who expect me to be happier) but I figure the company can pay me since they are the ones who replaced me.
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Im not interested in legal action, I am Ok with the 6 months they have given me.

My question was do I have to work the notice period?
Is it customary in CH that I would work or will they pay me 3 months & tell me to stay out of the office?
I guess this depends whether you are high enough up the food chain and in a sensitive position. If you are not and you expect a salary cheque, then they expect you to work, quite simple really !
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