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Re: HELP American Needs Employment Advice

Is there a site besides Monster.ch that is a good jobs board (I'm also going to put an advirt in a paper in Zurich and check those as well)...
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Old 25.12.2010, 17:19
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Re: HELP American Needs Employment Advice

www.jobs.ch covers everything, search on 'english technical writer' and other similar variations
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Re: HELP American Needs Employment Advice

You will still have an issue with work permit. That will apply whether you are in Germany or Switzerland.
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You will still have an issue with work permit. That will apply whether you are in Germany or Switzerland.
Yeah, but the wider the search, bigger market, more chance...
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Re: HELP American Needs Employment Advice

Unfortunately, the greater the number of people out-of-work and looking for jobs, the less chance...
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Re: HELP American Needs Employment Advice

Yep you need to sort out how you will stay and work here. Being non EU and being engaged, marriage is the only long term way without the hassle of relying on employers prepared to give you a go, which is difficult.
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Unfortunately, the greater the number of people out-of-work and looking for jobs, the less chance...
Yeah but I'm not competing with everyone out of work.

Right now, Switzerland has a shortage of IT workers of all kinds.

I'm really competing with EU IT workers willing to move to Switzerland who do support work (particularly database)...although this is daunting, it is not as bad as the overall unemployment rate...and from what I know already, switching between industries is not an easy task here for locals, as everything (even grocery store cashiers) seems to require some level of formal training...which is actually good in my situation, as it protects those seeking better employment in other industries from easily jumping industry (as they often do in the States, where things are far more flexible, speaking of that, would bet that the real people competing with me are mostly in the neighboring nations and some Eastern Euro nations, as most Euros won't be changing nations to work the way Americans or Canadians change states/provinces).

I will take the tip though and also look at Technical Writing...
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Re: HELP American Needs Employment Advice

The job market is not near as flexible in Switzerland or Europe.

There are many IT jobs out there for sure, but many require the
German language. Hopefully, you have already started learning.
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The job market is not near as flexible in Switzerland or Europe.

There are many IT jobs out there for sure, but many require the
German language. Hopefully, you have already started learning.
Yes Sir...but you know, I'm a beginner. Luckily, German is pretty close to English, just the damn articles and gender that are the problem. Oh well...it is what it is...I took a class before leaving the U.S., and my fiancee is helpful in helping me practice. It will take some time though.
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Re: HELP American Needs Employment Advice

Perhaps you might want to invest in a crash course to be able to speak in German.
Berlitz offers this kind of training/learning. You won't be able to write, but you will be able to hold a conversation. That will make a better impression during interviews.
English really is not enough (which is quite normal), you need the German and/or French.
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Do you guys know any recruiter in Deutschshweiz who often deals or specializes in placing foreigners (like non-EU)?
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Okay, lets try another question. If I quit my job here took my savings, lived with my girlfriend and looked for a job there for 3 months, what do people who live in in-country think my chases are of finding a low end, English speaking IT job anywhere in Romande or the German speaking areas?
The problem here is, from an immigration perspective, you are applying to enter as a visitor but you are clearly an intending immigrant.

If you are discovered by the Swiss authorities you would be deported, which is something that you do not want to have happen.
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The problem here is, from an immigration perspective, you are applying to enter as a visitor but you are clearly an intending immigrant.

If you are discovered by the Swiss authorities you would be deported, which is something that you do not want to have happen.
I'm not sure how I would be "discovered". I have to go back to the U.S. anyway, all my stuff is there, so the idea is get hired, it will take a long time to do the paper work, so I will go home, and then come back when they are finished...

At least that is the intention...but as discussed, most of this is not up to me. I personally know two people who have come here multiple times last year looking for work (similar to me), one guy found a job, the other still has not.
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I'm not sure how I would be "discovered". I have to go back to the U.S. anyway, all my stuff is there, so the idea is get hired, it will take a long time to do the paper work, so I will go home, and then come back when they are finished...

At least that is the intention...but as discussed, most of this is not up to me. I personally know two people who have come here multiple times last year looking for work (similar to me), one guy found a job, the other still has not.
Well maybe you guys were right about Switzerland. I've looked pretty intensely for a month. I have got several calls, but all of them were to verify or clarify my visa status. No luck in Switzerland. I do have two things currently going on in Germany in Cologne and Munich...seems the German market (although worse) is more open to immigrants than Switzerland (well, I mean NON-EU and NON-SWISS), they have less quotas...but we will see. Germany salaries suck compared to Swiss ones though. :-( Beggars can't be choosers...

I do have something pending in Geneve, but that is doubtful, if i moved there, salaries are good, but all this German I've been learning will be useless other than for talking to my fiancee's family. :-( Oh well...I think any major city in Germany is more interesting than rustic Switzerland anyway. My fiancee pretty much shares my opinion in that regard.
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Re: HELP American Needs Employment Advice

RMIT is a great IT/technical placement agency in Zurich. Check them out...

www.rmitpro.com

But I will say that it will all be difficult (but not impossible) without a work permit. If you are engaged and seriously want to marry...I would wait those trial 3 months and see if you really want to be together or not. Think of it as a nice vacation. No matter where you choose to live in Europe, you will need a permit to work...and the job market doesn't get any better than in Switzerland.

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RMIT is a great IT/technical placement agency in Zurich. Check them out...

www.rmitpro.com

But I will say that it will all be difficult (but not impossible) without a work permit. If you are engaged and seriously want to marry...I would wait those trial 3 months and see if you really want to be together or not. Think of it as a nice vacation. No matter where you choose to live in Europe, you will need a permit to work...and the job market doesn't get any better than in Switzerland.

Good luck!
Thanks for the tip about RMIT...but I have to disagree.

Switzerland has very strict visa quotas and regulations.

I have been contacted by two German companies, directly.

I have not been contacted by any Swiss company, and many recruiters have called (maybe 5 in one month) but none can even get me an interview in Switzerland. I've had two interviews with Germany companies so far!

At least for the skills I have Germany appears much better than Switzerland, also keep in mind I have probably applied for maybe 40 or more jobs in Switzerland but only 4 or 5 in Germany since Christmas 2010 and Germans are just more responsive. I put my visa status on my CV so everyone knows right away.

I was told by a Swiss recruiter that the Dutch market is better than Switzerland OR Germany and they have a more intelligent and business friendly way to grant visas, but we do not want to move that far from Switzerland.

I do see more jobs posted for Switzerland on a daily basis than all of Germany. That's amazing when you consider Germany's population is over 10X Switzerland, but for the jobs I can, it seems that Germany is a better bet.

We do not want to rush marriage for a job. If I can work in Germany that will give us time, we can come back to Switzerland in a couple of years or so...if we don't go to America. To be hones the only thing I find good about switzerland is the salary, it is not a very exciting country for a younger couple...I would very much like to live in Munchen more than Zurich, for example.

My fiancee is a nurse, so that is not good, as nurses get paid terribly in Germany, which is why so many come to Switzerland.

I typically do database application support, reporting using BI systems (Cognos, etc)...not a lot of work for that in Switzerland without a visa, but Germans seems to be needing more of those people.
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Re: HELP American Needs Employment Advice

Try the large chemical companys here in basel, no problem if you dont speak englisch
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