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Re: Info for nurses looking to work in switzerland.

Hi Karakatica,

Yeah we do the same number of clinical hours as the 4 year programs it is just the "science" courses you usually take in the first 2 years of nursing school were transferred from my other degree (biochemistry, anatomy, physiology, psychology, etc.). Hopefully that is okay...

I am looking into the French part! My French is FAR better than my German (thank you Canada haha). I will check out that agency thank you so much for the helpful tips I really appreciate it. Do you happen to be Canadian yourself?
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Hi Karakatica,

Yeah we do the same number of clinical hours as the 4 year programs it is just the "science" courses you usually take in the first 2 years of nursing school were transferred from my other degree (biochemistry, anatomy, physiology, psychology, etc.). Hopefully that is okay...

I am looking into the French part! My French is FAR better than my German (thank you Canada haha). I will check out that agency thank you so much for the helpful tips I really appreciate it. Do you happen to be Canadian yourself?
I wish you best of luck, hopefully your credentials will be accepted 100%. Yes, I live in Canada but would love to relocate to Europe to live there permanently.
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Re: Info for nurses looking to work in switzerland.

Hi Everyone,


Sorry if this has been asked already - I have done some searches and have not found an answer.


I am wondering how everyone found the transition of working in Switzerland vs your country of training? I am wondering specifically of a shift in practice expectations/roles compared to North America, but I would value input from anyone


I have been hearing the scope of practice of nurses in Switzerland is quite a lot less than in North America but it would be good to hear from someone who is actually in the role. Thanks in advance
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Hi Everyone,


Sorry if this has been asked already - I have done some searches and have not found an answer.


I am wondering how everyone found the transition of working in Switzerland vs your country of training? I am wondering specifically of a shift in practice expectations/roles compared to North America, but I would value input from anyone


I have been hearing the scope of practice of nurses in Switzerland is quite a lot less than in North America but it would be good to hear from someone who is actually in the role. Thanks in advance
Since you speak French, I imagine you would be more interested in the Swiss French cantons. You might be better off to ask your question on a specialized forum that has people who work in nursing in CH. The one below talks a lot about French nurses working in CH and their +/- on the system but I am sure that someone could help you with your question(s) as they probably work with people who have come out of the CDN system (FYI the CHUV in Lausanne has something like 700+ nurses from Quebec).

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http://www.educh.ch/forum/quel-est-l...sse-f1434.html
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Re: Nursing Diploma recognition by Red Cross

Hi,
Just wondering where your wife got her nursing degree from?
DId she have any work experience? I just graduated with my ASN in the US. Studying currently for the nclex and I am looking to relocate to Switzerland. I grew up in Germany and even though I am not a citizen (but an EU citizen) I went to school there (preK - 13).
I can't start the process of accreditation until I pass my Nclex in the US so I am wondering what my odds are and if I am better of looking for accreditation in other EU countries?
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Hi Dosa,

Don't know about a child nursing degree (from the UK?), but I'm currently going through the process of getting my degree (Bachelor of Science in Nursing from a US university) recognized by the Red Cross, and I can tell you about my experience with the whole "comparing thing".

The absolute first thing you have to do is contact the Swiss Red Cross (from now on RC) and tell them your situation. This can be done in English. They will send you a form to fill out, along with a list of required documents. This is what they call "l'examen préalable obligatoire" of your documents. They will assess your case for FREE, and tell you whether or not, in principle, your degree can be recognized. In my case, they told me this free assessment takes 1-2 months, I got my reply in the mail about 1.5 months later. For me it was a positive reply, stating that my degree could in fact be recognized... I was very impressed with how they handled my request and thought it was a great example of that famous "Swiss efficiency"...

If you received a positive response the first time around, the next step is to send the "real" application. You have to send the same documents again (certified copies this time around for a few of the documents) + proof of language. This part of the assessment costs 500chf. They told me this part would take 3 months... but then there was a misunderstanding (too long to explain).. so they didn't officially accept my request till Nov 1, 2013.. well, Feb 1 rolled around and.. nothing... so I asked... and then I asked again, and then after the 3rd time... I finally received my partial decision at the end of Feb. (so, almost 4 months)

Now (as a non-EU educated nurse) I have to do an internship and take the ~6000chf class mentioned by someone else above. Might be different for a UK nurse. But beware... it becomes increasingly hard to contact the RC as you go along the process... they seem to have reasonable requirements, but then they don't hook you up with anything (internship, or class). It's up to you to find and do these things... so far, I've had 2 offers to do my internship completely UNPAID. Contacted the RC about this and they said that it really should be paid, with at least an intern salary... but they couldn't tell me where past candidates have done their internship and have been paid, for example. Also, the class only happens once a year in the french part of Switzerland (might be more often in the German part?)... in my case, I got my partial decision telling me to take the class at the end of Feb, and the class doesn't start till the end of September. The first portion of the class is 9 days, spread out in 5 months!! Then will have to register for the second part of the class, 22 days spread into 7 months or so?? (not sure yet). Oh, and they're not allowing me to start my internship until the beginning of the course... haven't yet gotten a good explanation for this “rule” form their part. The RC gives you 2 years to fulfill these requirements... and in my case, due to the timing of their decision and the availability of the courses, I will actually be cutting it close! Also, I will then have to pay another 500chf to the RC.

Make sure you give yourself enough TIME to do this, it is not quick and painless. You have to be 100% motivated and it helps if you are independently rich or can find some sort of other income during the whole process (which is tricky, because you have to be available to do the internship, etc). Ideally, a hospital hires you before you start the whole process. But more and more hospitals are requiring that you have the RC recognition, and so far I haven't succeeded at finding a nursing job. Clearly, the recognition system is designed for you to do it while you work... not independently... but I too don't know how you go about getting a nursing job without having the recognition! Anyone out there that has succeeded at doing that.. any advice??

Oh.. and there is way too much talk about the language requirement on this thread... you NEED to know one of the languages to work as a nurse (any nurse should know that ). If you are going through the process of getting recognized while living here in Switzerland though, that will be the least of your worries (and paying your bills will be the first...) and you will have plenty of time to learn and perfect the language. But again, you have to be really motivated to do this...

Hope this helps and good luck! Don't mean to scare you, I just think that this would have been so helpful to know when I first started this whole process...
Thank you for detailed explanation...
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Re: Info for nurses looking to work in switzerland.

Hello everyone from english Forum.
This forums had caught my attention as I wanted to work in Switzerland as a nurse. I am from the phillipines and I am currently working here in Germany as a Nurse helfer as I still need to work on my full recognition - I am fluent in German(with B2 certificate) and English. My questions are:
First - I wanted to ask If I would be fully recognized as a nurse in Germany. Will I be also recognized to work in Switzerland?
Second - If ever its possible to apply to the health care institutions would there be one that acknowledges my English proficiency as an edge?

Thank you in advance for your inputs.
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Hello everyone from english Forum.
This forums had caught my attention as I wanted to work in Switzerland as a nurse. I am from the phillipines and I am currently working here in Germany as a Nurse helfer as I still need to work on my full recognition - I am fluent in German(with B2 certificate) and English. My questions are:
First - I wanted to ask If I would be fully recognized as a nurse in Germany. Will I be also recognized to work in Switzerland?
Second - If ever its possible to apply to the health care institutions would there be one that acknowledges my English proficiency as an edge?

Thank you in advance for your inputs.
If you are certified in Germany then it shouldn't be a problem to get recognition here.

https://www.sbfi.admin.ch/sbfi/en/ho...ealthcare.html

I would check with them on what level of Swiss language fluency would be needed. English is a bonus, but it's your fluency in German that will allow you to be employed here.
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Re: Info for nurses looking to work in switzerland.

Oh vielen herzlichen Dank. Das war aber schnell.

So it means I just need to fill up the necessary papers and pass all the needed documents and pay up the processing fee and wait for the results. Would be having an employer first a good idea before having recognized or not?
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Oh vielen herzlichen Dank. Das war aber schnell.

So it means I just need to fill up the necessary papers and pass all the needed documents and pay up the processing fee and wait for the results. Would be having an employer first a good idea before having recognized or not?
You won't get one until your certification has been recognised.
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Re: Info for nurses looking to work in switzerland.

Hi All,
I have posted before in this forum and someone forwarded an older response to me. Thanks for that! However, I am still wondering if anyone has successfully completed the accreditation process with an Associates Degree in Nursing from the US? Also, did anyone out there start the process without any work experience? Lastly, would anyone be willing to share what they submitted for their Ausbildungsbestätigung? My school doesn't have a simple form so it's up to me to type up something that they'll sign for me. I would love to just get an idea of what it's supposed to look like. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!!
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Re: Info for nurses looking to work in switzerland.

Hi to all I am truly puzzled by Red Cross requirement of permit de sejour for evaluation of foreign degree. Currently I am not residing in Switzerland and will be able to obtain permit once I find a job there. However, to apply for a job I will need the degree equivalence. I don't understand what to do next as Red Cross insisted that I can't initiate recognition process without permit. Anyone had similar experience? Does it mean that I have no hope what so ever to do degree evaluation except getting married to swiss ?
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Re: Info for nurses looking to work in switzerland.

Haven't heard of this before.

Maybe something to do with trying to make sure people who already have a permit to live/work here are first in the jobs queue?
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Re: Info for nurses looking to work in switzerland.

Since this is the longest thread on nursing, I would like to share my experience thus far.

I am a Registered Nurse (Bachelor's of Science in Nursing) from NY.

I have already been through the most of the recognition process 1,130chf with the Swiss Red Cross (German speaking part).

After reviewing my documents, the SRC told me that in order for me to receive my Swiss nursing license I must fulfill the following:

1) B2 German Language Certificate: 275chf (already completed)
2) 6 Month "Anpassungslehrgang" (adaptation period) at a qualified healthcare center. (Hospital, Spitex)
3) Continuing education course "Pflegen in der Schweiz": 5,000+chf
(*in German speaking part this is only offered TWICE per year. August in Bern and January in Zurich. In French part only once a year.)
- In order to even attend the class you must have a position in healthcare, ideally the adaptation period, so you can do both simultaneously.

Currently my biggest challenge is finding a hospital willing to accept me and offer me this "Anpassungslehrgang". So far many of them are telling me that they do not offer such a Praktikum.

Does anyone have any tips? I really can't wait to finally get back to being a nurse.

Thanks everyone!
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Re: Info for nurses looking to work in switzerland.

It appears that you've been moving forward but have encountered an ostacle on the road. Here are a few thoughts:

1) RAV: If you haven't registered with your local RAV Swiss job service office, you might wish to do so. They may be able to provide tips and other support to help you to find a nursing position.
- Some RAV offices may have a specialist in Pflege who knows the area market.

2) Job boards: These two links are to lists of Swiss job boards:

https://www.ag.ch/media/kanton_aarga...lenboersen.pdf

https://www.biz.erz.be.ch/biz_erz/de...m_Internet.pdf

These three job search engines are particularly good, imho:

https://www.indeed.ch/

https://jobsuchmaschine.ch/de/

https://www.jobagent.ch/ <=code is needed, normally available from RAV

This job board, which lists jobs on employer websites, looks promising for hospitals offering practicums:

https://www.markenjobs.ch/jobs/kateg...ktikumsstellen

Hope this assists you somewhat. Good luck!
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Since this is the longest thread on nursing, I would like to share my experience thus far.

I am a Registered Nurse (Bachelor's of Science in Nursing) from NY.

I have already been through the most of the recognition process 1,130chf with the Swiss Red Cross (German speaking part).

After reviewing my documents, the SRC told me that in order for me to receive my Swiss nursing license I must fulfill the following:

1) B2 German Language Certificate: 275chf (already completed)
2) 6 Month "Anpassungslehrgang" (adaptation period) at a qualified healthcare center. (Hospital, Spitex)
3) Continuing education course "Pflegen in der Schweiz": 5,000+chf
(*in German speaking part this is only offered TWICE per year. August in Bern and January in Zurich. In French part only once a year.)
- In order to even attend the class you must have a position in healthcare, ideally the adaptation period, so you can do both simultaneously.

Currently my biggest challenge is finding a hospital willing to accept me and offer me this "Anpassungslehrgang". So far many of them are telling me that they do not offer such a Praktikum.

Does anyone have any tips? I really can't wait to finally get back to being a nurse.

Thanks everyone!
I remember talking to you last year and you hadn't submitted yet - cool you did it! I am submitting everything now and have a feeling the answer will be the same. Not sure I can justify spending as much money on an adaptation course as I did for half of my nursing degree back home
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I remember talking to you last year and you hadn't submitted yet - cool you did it! I am submitting everything now and have a feeling the answer will be the same. Not sure I can justify spending as much money on an adaptation course as I did for half of my nursing degree back home
Good luck with your process! As for the cost... yeah... it's really a motivation killer especially when reading the overview of the course. A person I know who took that class said it's basic nursing fundamentals (nursing process, assessment etc.).

http://www.bzpflege.ch/weiterbildung...z/beschreibung

http://www.sbk-zh.ch/editor/user_upl...gramm_2017.pdf
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Hi to all I am truly puzzled by Red Cross requirement of permit de sejour for evaluation of foreign degree. Currently I am not residing in Switzerland and will be able to obtain permit once I find a job there. However, to apply for a job I will need the degree equivalence. I don't understand what to do next as Red Cross insisted that I can't initiate recognition process without permit. Anyone had similar experience? Does it mean that I have no hope what so ever to do degree evaluation except getting married to swiss ?
I also received this notice in my package and was wondering if anyone has further information on it... so I received a "nein" to FH but a yes to "HF" Annerkenung provided I send them a B2 German certificate. HOWEVER... I am also supposed to submit my work permit before they give me a "yes"

My current work permit expires in a few weeks and I am going back to Canada. I cannot get a new one unless I have the recognition which is required to apply for a job... seems backwards to me. My boyfriend and I have discussed marriage but I'd rather not do a shotgun wedding in the next 12 months just to have the possibility of registration.

Anyone had luck with this? Obviously I need a permit eventually but you would think the recognition would be first. Makes no sense
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...My current work permit expires in a few weeks and I am going back to Canada. I cannot get a new one unless I have the recognition which is required to apply for a job... seems backwards to me. My boyfriend and I have discussed marriage but I'd rather not do a shotgun wedding in the next 12 months just to have the possibility of registration...
That sucks, dasdasdas. It seems like a lot of the health professions you get stuck in a chicken and egg situation. You need the work experience to get the recognition, but you can't get the work experience without your degree being recognized and having a permit to work. Hope you're able to sort something soon.
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Sounds like more of the emphasis to hire people who already live and work here rather than bringing outsiders in. Catch 22 indeed.
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