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Re: Freelance Consultants - How NOT to get ripped off by intermediaries

Greetings!

This is my first post, although Ive read a few ones (always very helpful). I wanted to ask about my very specific situation, as Ive not been able to find a post that matches 100%.

I have a EU passport and I live in Spain. I had been working as a Consultant for a big Healthcare company based in Basel for the past 5 months, working as part of a team from a Zurich-based Consulting firm. I do not have a swiss
work permit and Ive already used up all the days available with the "short term registration procedure" (incl. extension to 120 days which will be over at the end of the month).

Now my client (the Healthcare company) wants to keep me as a contractor starting July until year end (i.e., me leaving the consulting firm and signing a contract as independent contractor). The consulting firm is OK with me leaving, because anyway they would have let me go...The thing is that I do not have a swiss work permit, not I would like to live in Switzerland (I was commuting weekly back home in Mallorca and would like to continue doing the same).

I am not sure how to proceed, and I do not have much time because they want me to continue working (no gap) and I do not know how long does it take to get things set up.

My preferred option would be to sign the contract with my client directly using a company I have set up in Spain and without work permit/insurance/swiss payroll . Is this possible in any way??

If not possible, I got from reading this and other posts that the best-easiest course of action would be to reach out to a body lease company (e.g., accurity) and ask them to help me. I have a few questions:
- How can I get a work permit? I guess it would have to be an L permit? Can accurity help me with this?
- Do I really, really need to pay pension funds and taxes and the short for a 6 month contract? I will not be officially a Swiss resident I believe (will only be officially employed in Basel for 5.5 months).
- How much should I charge for my services? I know how much a full-time employee for the HC company costs (full-loaded costs for the company) for a similar position, and I was planning to ask for a 10% on top of it. Sounds reasonable? should it be more or less?

Any help will be most appreciated!!!!
Many thanks, Danke, Moltes gracies
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25 years in IT. Contracting and permanent in 3 different countries.

Yes, and look what it did to his face, best you know what you doing !
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Old 04.06.2017, 19:43
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Greetings!

This is my first post, although Ive read a few ones (always very helpful). I wanted to ask about my very specific situation, as Ive not been able to find a post that matches 100%.

I have a EU passport and I live in Spain. I had been working as a Consultant for a big Healthcare company based in Basel for the past 5 months, working as part of a team from a Zurich-based Consulting firm. I do not have a swiss
work permit and Ive already used up all the days available with the "short term registration procedure" (incl. extension to 120 days which will be over at the end of the month).

Now my client (the Healthcare company) wants to keep me as a contractor starting July until year end (i.e., me leaving the consulting firm and signing a contract as independent contractor). The consulting firm is OK with me leaving, because anyway they would have let me go...The thing is that I do not have a swiss work permit, not I would like to live in Switzerland (I was commuting weekly back home in Mallorca and would like to continue doing the same).

I am not sure how to proceed, and I do not have much time because they want me to continue working (no gap) and I do not know how long does it take to get things set up.

My preferred option would be to sign the contract with my client directly using a company I have set up in Spain and without work permit/insurance/swiss payroll . Is this possible in any way??

If not possible, I got from reading this and other posts that the best-easiest course of action would be to reach out to a body lease company (e.g., accurity) and ask them to help me. I have a few questions:
- How can I get a work permit? I guess it would have to be an L permit? Can accurity help me with this?
- Do I really, really need to pay pension funds and taxes and the short for a 6 month contract? I will not be officially a Swiss resident I believe (will only be officially employed in Basel for 5.5 months).
- How much should I charge for my services? I know how much a full-time employee for the HC company costs (full-loaded costs for the company) for a similar position, and I was planning to ask for a 10% on top of it. Sounds reasonable? should it be more or less?

Any help will be most appreciated!!!!
Many thanks, Danke, Moltes gracies
Sorry, but working here without either the short registration procedure (which you've already used up) or a Swiss permit is illegal. What you need is a G (cross border) permit.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...t/eu_efta.html

And yes you do need to pay pension and taxes even for a short term contract. I assume you've been doing this via your current consultancy company already.

I would have a talk with both the Basel cantonal migration and taxation offices to find out the best approach to take.
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Funny - I got asked a similar question in another forum...
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Greetings!

This is my first post, although Ive read a few ones (always very helpful). I wanted to ask about my very specific situation, as Ive not been able to find a post that matches 100%.

I have a EU passport and I live in Spain. I had been working as a Consultant for a big Healthcare company based in Basel for the past 5 months, working as part of a team from a Zurich-based Consulting firm. I do not have a swiss
work permit and Ive already used up all the days available with the "short term registration procedure" (incl. extension to 120 days which will be over at the end of the month).

Now my client (the Healthcare company) wants to keep me as a contractor starting July until year end (i.e., me leaving the consulting firm and signing a contract as independent contractor). The consulting firm is OK with me leaving, because anyway they would have let me go...The thing is that I do not have a swiss work permit, not I would like to live in Switzerland (I was commuting weekly back home in Mallorca and would like to continue doing the same).

I am not sure how to proceed, and I do not have much time because they want me to continue working (no gap) and I do not know how long does it take to get things set up.

My preferred option would be to sign the contract with my client directly using a company I have set up in Spain and without work permit/insurance/swiss payroll . Is this possible in any way??

If not possible, I got from reading this and other posts that the best-easiest course of action would be to reach out to a body lease company (e.g., accurity) and ask them to help me. I have a few questions:
- How can I get a work permit? I guess it would have to be an L permit? Can accurity help me with this?
- Do I really, really need to pay pension funds and taxes and the short for a 6 month contract? I will not be officially a Swiss resident I believe (will only be officially employed in Basel for 5.5 months).
- How much should I charge for my services? I know how much a full-time employee for the HC company costs (full-loaded costs for the company) for a similar position, and I was planning to ask for a 10% on top of it. Sounds reasonable? should it be more or less?

Any help will be most appreciated!!!!
Many thanks, Danke, Moltes gracies
I'm using the phone so can't be 4rs3d with the quotes.
The agency should help with the permit, however with a contract in your hand and an address in Basel you should be able
to get one yourself.
Perhaps drop into the Gemeinde by the Three Kings and ask them directly?
You usually need to use an agency on the preferred supplier list, so if it's Novartis go through Manpower, if it's Roche then there are a fee, but Elan are fair. For other employers ask HR for the list.
The rate? Charge what your consultancy charge for you. The company would have budgeted on that rate already.

The issue I see is that you are out of days and without a permit, so you'd need to work from home while it gets processed. Is your new boss going to be ok with that?
For stoppages I cannot comment.
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Funny - I got asked a similar question in another forum...
Not me!! But if the similar question got interesting answers, do you mind sharing the link?
Thanks!
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Sorry, but working here without either the short registration procedure (which you've already used up) or a Swiss permit is illegal. What you need is a G (cross border) permit.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...t/eu_efta.html

And yes you do need to pay pension and taxes even for a short term contract. I assume you've been doing this via your current consultancy company already.

I would have a talk with both the Basel cantonal migration and taxation offices to find out the best approach to take.
G-permits are only for people living in the border areas. I doubt that Spain qualifies.
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Re: Freelance Consultants - How NOT to get ripped off by intermediaries

I thought the G permit was only for countries with a physical border but I just read it applies to other EU countries! Thanks, I will ask the cantonal authorities!!

I am sure my company was doing all legally, I was just not aware of the details....not sure I need to pay Pillr 2 & 3 though, based on other response...

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Sorry, but working here without either the short registration procedure (which you've already used up) or a Swiss permit is illegal. What you need is a G (cross border) permit.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...t/eu_efta.html

And yes you do need to pay pension and taxes even for a short term contract. I assume you've been doing this via your current consultancy company already.

I would have a talk with both the Basel cantonal migration and taxation offices to find out the best approach to take.
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What rate in Switzerland is ok for three months contract, experienced 20year in it Azure consultant? //Nic
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What rate in Switzerland is ok for three months contract, experienced 20year in it Azure consultant? //Nic
Surely you must have a reasonable idea if you have 20 years experience ?
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