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[Potential] Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

Is it true that as of yesterday there is a change in chomage rules? I heard, that if you earn over 120,000 chf it will take 20 working days before you are entitled to any payments.

I also heard that from 200 days your payment will be reduced massively also..

Can anyone confirm this? I am panicking as I am unemployed as of Friday.. perfect timing for these changes..

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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

Can you give us a source for this? Where did you hear the news?

And best of luck finding a new job quickly!
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

http://www.teletext.ch/TSR2/108-00.html

I can only understand a little bit of it..
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Old 09.12.2009, 15:30
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

Thanks.

From what I can see there, it is talking about cutting the number of days to which you are entitled to the unemployment benefits from 400. This would apply for those under 30, and those with between one year and 18 months of unemployment insurance contributions - instead they would only get 260 days except where there are dependent offspring. Those under 25 only get 130 days.

However I can't see anything about the points you mentioned...
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

The rest I was told about by a colleague which was why I looked it up but he said he found it all on teletext but that is the only article I could see related to it..

I don't mind about reduction in days that you are insured for as I plan to get a job asap if I can, however I am worried about the length of time before any payout as that will affect me immediately..

Hopefully it was wrong info..
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

Don't unemployment rules vary from canton to canton?
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

I'm not entirely sure.. but I did find another article with the points I made in my first post..

http://www.romandie.com/infos/ats/di...ociate=phf1031

it is effective from now..
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

When I was on chomage last year it was the first 7 days that I didn't receive anything. I guess we will have to wait for more informed people to give a definitive answer, but even if they are planning on changing the rules it would be pretty harsh to do it immediately, so hopefully you will avoid any problems.... The other option would be to ask when you visit your local unemployment office which I guess you will be visiting soon anyway
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I'm not entirely sure.. but I did find another article with the points I made in my first post..

http://www.romandie.com/infos/ats/di...ociate=phf1031

it is effective from now..
Ah yes, that does seem to be the case. Sadly I guess this could effect quite a few people on here so thanks for bringing it up... In my case, I thought that the chomage was pretty generous - I guess they realised that with the rising numbers of unemployed it was too expensive... As I said before, good luck finding something else soon.
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

There's an article in the 20 min online today too, read it on my iphone over lunchtime while tucking into a Lebanese Sujuk (always to be recommended).
http://www.20min.ch/news/dossier/ses...aeter-31430242

One of the commentsis they won't make allowances for over 60s.
Women after birth willalsoo be expected to look for work ebeven in the 1st 14 weeks, the female Swiss president agrees neo-natal mothers shouldn't be freed from the need to be looking in this period.
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

Thanks GenevaSculler.. I have interviews this week and next but didn't quite realise the need for speed until today!
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Don't unemployment rules vary from canton to canton?
Not in the least, they are federal. If a canton has over a certain percentage of unemployment for a fixed period of time the daily allowance moves from 400 days to 520 days, but it's all controlled by the federation. How else could they give semi accurate figures for the country if it was governed by cantons. If you worked in GVA but lived in Vaud, who cashes the premium, who pays out ?
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

My question with this is will it effect only the newly unemployed, or those already receiving unemployment?

Sigh. This unemployment stuff is never fun.
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

Article here which may help.
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

Hi - thanks for pointing people to the GenevaLunch article on this. A clarification for those whose French is not fluent: Swiss newspaper headlines routinely imply that legislation that is under discussion has actually been passed - clear to people who grew up with this, but if you come from an anglophone news environment it's misleading. The legislation hasn't changed, but it's under discussion. I've just updated our text to make this clear.
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

Thanks everyone.. that is one less thing to worry about!
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

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Hi - thanks for pointing people to the GenevaLunch article on this. A clarification for those whose French is not fluent: Swiss newspaper headlines routinely imply that legislation that is under discussion has actually been passed - clear to people who grew up with this, but if you come from an anglophone news environment it's misleading. The legislation hasn't changed, but it's under discussion. I've just updated our text to make this clear.
Both Houses of Parliament (Senate and Representatives) have voted to restrict employment benefits. Curtailment is inevitable.

The Executive can decide implementation date and details. President Doris is sounding unhappy. But the deficits do not give her much room to maneuver.

Anyone wants further 1 or 2% salary deductions for more benefits to the unemployed?
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

yes, it can be misleading. but the swiss parliment has not yet voted on this so for the moment nothing has changed. but these guys haven't a clue! paying out less will only aggravate the situation and not motivate the unemployed to find work quicker. rather threaten a high tax to the employers if they don't search for qualified people among the unemployed first. what do you all think?
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Thanks GenevaSculler.. I have interviews this week and next but didn't quite realise the need for speed until today!
Say thanks to the new rule for that.
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Re: Change in Chomage Rules (Unemployment rules)

Paying out for a shorter amount of time will end up with more people on welfare, unfortunately...and that is a great concern to most localities.
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