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Old 12.09.2012, 22:04
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Re: Picture on a CV?

Hubby went through the unemployment thing a couple of years ago and sent out loads of CV, none of which had a photo. None of the jobs, Swiss and UK, I researched for him asked for them and the advice pack we got from Fribourg unemployment bureau didn't suggest putting a photo with a CV.

It's more likely the writing and style of the CV that will do the trick. We certainly got more hits once we'd changed the layout to a more modern form.
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Re: Picture on a CV?

No doubt that the writing, the style, the content and the layout, are the most important for a cv.

We just discuss the pros and cons of putting a photo or not, in a cv that is going to reach a swiss company.
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Re: Picture on a CV?

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Hi Everyone,

My post in the introductions section will follow!

I am currently living in Germany and having been here for more than 7 years have more than settled into the German way of doing things.

However I have decided it is time for a change and have started applying for jobs in Zürich. Having only had a German CV for many years now I have just translated the German version into English. I have been advised to take the picture off though.

So my question really is if it is standard to have a picture on your CV in Switzerland or not? I know in Germany it is pretty normal.

Depending on what language the job advert is in I'll be sending the CV of that language.

So is it standard or not? Any opinions?
yes, it is fairly standard. It is also in your best interest to have your picture look as professional as possible.

I use the same picture on xing, linked-in, my personal homepage, and my CV. Like it or not we are at the mercy of the interviewer and are all being judged --I believe it to be to an applicants advantage if you can keep the overall impression or "brand" both consistent and professional throughout all channels.

A little bit of effort will go a long way.
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Old 12.09.2012, 22:33
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Re: Picture on a CV?

According to many specialists the goal of a CV is to get you an interview and not much more. CVs are usually scanned for 15 to 20 seconds and then kept for contact or just thrown away; in the case of big organisations they may pass first through some kind of software looking for matches on predefined key words to filter out unsuitable candidates.

If you think the picture is going to draw positive attention to you just use it, otherwise take the space for relevant content like work experience or qualifications.

It's been documented in the media that Balkan sounding last names represent a disadvantage for job seekers. It can be deducted from this fact that a picture may have a negative impact as well.
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Re: Picture on a CV?

Some HR staff and hiring managers will prefer a photo, and could discriminate against you for not having one simply because they think you are trying to hide something. Same goes for not including family status and dob.

But the opposite can also be true and some will think it is odd that you are including a photo and dob. My previous (brit) manager refused to interview anyone that included a photo because he assumed they were arrogant

Recruitment agencies are accepting of both styles, and will alter the cv according to the client's expectations. So if you don't include the photo and they need it, they will just ask for it.

So if you are applying for a position at a swiss or German company, include the photo and the other info. But if the company is a US/UK co, don't include the extra personal info. If in doubt you could ring the company and ask their preference.

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Re: Picture on a CV?

So many conflicting opinions!
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Re: Picture on a CV?

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Some HR staff and hiring managers will prefer a photo, and could discriminate against you for not having one simply because they think you are trying to hide something.
It is not some weird Swiss thing but a norm in most parts of the world including all European countries except of the UK, all Asian countries I know including India and China and therefore the vast majority of the world: Add a photo.

If you don't do I not think you are ugly - I think you are ignorant of the business culture you are applying to. In other words: If you do not know how to apply will you most probably also expect everything else to be the same as back home... That's the sort of person I really don't need on my team. If you are in an expat situation is it always important to show that you are familiar with the "host culture". You don't have to love it and you can find photos on a CV a stupid idea - but if you want that job you better follow the norm or you will not get that interview.

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Re: Picture on a CV?

Well, for those of you willing to make do with this controversial Swiss custom, and only have 20 year old photos or unflattering ones, I'll be happy to help

http://fotoam.com/xx_studio.html
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Re: Picture on a CV?

Well, I hope that this (in my opinion) 'awful' trend of facebook on several aspects of our digital lives, do not apply here.
I mean, a decade ago most people were more conservative about giving away photos, in any circumstances. Nowadays, when somebody uploads dozens of photos in a facebook profile, he may find absolutely normal to just put a photo on cv, without even thinking of it.

Of course, accepting or rejecting the facebook trend, should be something completely irrelevant to our subject, but I cannot deny that the psychology of people about these things have changed.
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Well, I hope that this (in my opinion) 'awful' trend of facebook on several aspects of our digital lives, do not apply here.
I mean, a decade ago most people were more conservative about giving away photos, in any circumstances. Nowadays, when somebody uploads dozens of photos in a facebook profile, he may find absolutely normal to just put a photo on cv, without even thinking of it.

Of course, accepting or rejecting the facebook trend, should be something completely irrelevant to our subject, but I cannot deny that the psychology of people about these things have changed.
It is not a facebook trend - quite the opposite. Back in the day were photos something printed on paper and not exactly cheap. So writing a good application would not only take time but technically cost you money for a photo, good paper, a nice folder, a nice envelope.... stamp. As a result would not every idiot apply to every job that does not even match his profile the tiniest bid... it raised the bar and therefore the quality of the applicants. If I would only receive the ten percent (on a good day) that makes remotely sense for the vacancies we have... well, then I would not just skim through the CVs but had the time to actually read them.

P.S: Really really do not use a facebook picture for any job higher than selling coffee at starbucks. Sounds stupid but I had to advise north american friends before that the cropped out pic from that wedding of a friend does not look good on an application - even though the clothes are formal and the smile ok.
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Re: Picture on a CV?

If I decide to put a nice(professional) photo on cv, I hope it would be indifferent in worst case scenario, if a HR manager does not like photos on cv.
At least, I hope it would not be negative!
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Re: Picture on a CV?

Do not submit photo with your CV. If you want to be assessed based on your experience and skills and taken seriously as a professional. Unless the position requiress professional photos such as a model, actor, etc.
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Re: Picture on a CV?

Tricky tricky.

The picture shouldn't count when you are applying for a job that doesn't have to do with customers or where you don't have to expose yourself too much. You should have a picture if you are going to be in front the whole day and you have to make a good impression.
It is the CV that should say something about you and if you are the right person for the job!
BUT the real thing is -- most employers prefer a picture. If the CV is quite good and they call the person for the interview (let's say at the Kasse at Coop) and the person that arrives has a not so pleasant appearence then they refuse that candidate.
I know a lady working at the Kasse (somewhere) and she looks like a drag (sorry drags) so every time I see her I stare at her...
I also thing that people with tattoes and piercings (they are human after all and have qualities also) should have a chance for a job working with costumers, but it depends on the company and the job. I don't like when a heavy make up lady comes to me asking me to do to a make up on me when she looks awful.
Once an employer asked me to go to the interview wearing day to day clothes. She said that people dress nice at the interview just for the first impression but in the real life they are different and she doesn't want 2 faced people...

You could do a test: first send the CV with a pic, wait for the response (if any!) and then apply with a pic.

This subject always makes people split into 2 camps.
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Re: Picture on a CV?

I have recently bumped into a handout for fresh graduates and students in business disciplines at my university in Zurich and it had an article about the "proper application".

It devoted at least two paragraphs to the importance of a professionally made photograph in the application. It was written by the head of graduate recruitment of UBS or Credit Suisse, so it might not apply for everyone, but if you are aiming for an entry level position at one of these places it is reccommended to comply.
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