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Youth Work

Hello all, new to the forum!

Hopefully moving to Switzerland (Graubunden) in a few years, will be a qualified (BA) youth/community worker by this time.

Does anyone know of any youth work/provisions that exist in Switzerland? I work will the average teenager/vulnerable teenager/challenging behaviours and children with dissabilities.

Any help would be appreciated.



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Re: Youth Work

They definitely exist in Switzerland. Every canton has some institutions which deal with difficult/challenging youth and/or disabilities.

I don't know what Graubünden has on offer but I'm quite sure they have them too.

Actually it makes me quite sad thinking about how many places exist around where I live.
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Re: Youth Work

HELP!! I need exactly this, for my 18 year old...Kiffa, where are you and what exactly do you do with troubled youth?
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Re: Youth Work

Hi Susan57, im sorry if my message is a bit misleading.

I live and study in Wales, but my girlfriend lives in Graubunden. Weve just been discussing possible job's if I do eventually make the move in a yr or 2!
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Old 03.06.2011, 01:08
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Are you going to learn high German and Graubunden dialect fluently? Do you think the Swiss people will trust their dirty laundry with a furriner?

These are very secretive people, and I think you might have more success in staying in Wales and finding a job for your girl friend there.
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Re: Youth Work

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They definitely exist in Switzerland. Every canton has some institutions which deal with difficult/challenging youth and/or disabilities.

I don't know what Graubünden has on offer but I'm quite sure they have them too.

Actually it makes me quite sad thinking about how many places exist around where I live.
Does anybody know the names/address/website of these institutions in ZH canton?
Thanks a lot!
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Old 03.06.2011, 01:27
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Does anybody know the names/address/website of these institutions in ZH canton? Thanks a lot!
You cannot simply aproach these institutions and expect them to help you, you need to contact the social services where you live and decide on a plan of action.
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Are you going to learn high German and Graubunden dialect fluently? Do you think the Swiss people will trust their dirty laundry with a furriner?

These are very secretive people, and I think you might have more success in staying in Wales and finding a job for your girl friend there.
Secretive? More success in Wales?!? If i wanted advice on where to live and what to do with my life i would of asked for it! Im not new to the Graubunden area i have visted frequently and ur opinion of the people who live here are very of the mark!! Talk about sterotypes and prejudice views of people you dont know!
Thanks for the oh so positive comments, they have made my day and the people i live with and their family chuckle and ur opinions of them!
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Re: Youth Work

The members of this forum give a lot of advice about people looking for work, but we are not the experts in this field. Just guys and gals who've been in similar circumstances. Some of the advice is good. So is bad. Some just doesn't suit the questioner's situation. Some of it doesn't suit the questioner. Period.

You first posted on here about working in Graubünden in April last year. Yesterday you wrote this
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Just moved to Graubunden, i speak no German, have no job and limited money! Wish me luck!
Quite honestly, as, looking through your posts, I can see that you main interest is in a job in social work, maybe the best way to get information would be to ask the people with whom you live and who chuckle at the opinions given on here.

Good luck in your search.
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Re: Youth Work

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Any help would be appreciated.
I think (for what it's worth) that Ittigen is just being realistic.

From my experience coming here to work with children (in my case younger children), there are quite a few hoops to go through.

For starters, you will have to be fluent in one of the national languages (Your profile states you speak no foreign languages.). I was working as the English teacher in a bilingual pre-school, and I still was told I needed to have B2 level in French so I could communicate with French-speaking parents. If I had wanted to work in a purely French speaking environment, I would have needed C2 level. I am sure the same rules apply all over Switzerland.

You will also need to get your qualification recognised. I have heard different stories about the ease of this. Some people got their equivalency easily. Personally, I was sent from one organisation to another, and then back again. This was because the Swiss had identified a UK qualification that was the equivalent of the Swiss qualification I needed, but I had a different qualification. So I had to jump through a lot of hoops to prove that my qualification was equal to this other UK qualification. In the end they did accept it, but told me I would have to do some further studies in Switzerland to bring my knowledge of the local system up to scratch. All in French of course. This process took over a year, and was very expensive. (I never actually completed it as I became ill, but that's another story). Oh, and again, all this correspondence had to be carried out in a national language, even though their website had an English version - I first applied in English and got a very miffed e-mail back asking me to please note that English was not a Swiss national language.

I would guess that the starting point for getting your qualification recognised would be here:

http://www.bbt.admin.ch/themen/01105/index.html?lang=en

I hope that helps.

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Old 03.06.2011, 10:43
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Hi kiffamiles,

First thing, use this forum wisely... There are so many people on it, some wise, some not so wise... (Some wise for some people, some for others... anyway, you get my hint) If you don't like what someone said.. then forget about it and move on.
It's up to you to take the positivity that you want from it.
Anyway, I'd like to say... good luck in your new adventure!

In do believe that a lot of people come here with jobs already lined up and they cannot fathom why people come over with no money and no job and expect to find something at the drop of a hat - with no knowledge of local languages and not to much experience.

You will need to know the language spoken in your locality. Switzerland isn't really a country where you can get by with English, unless you're working in Geneva or Zurich, or in an English speaking company ( and even then - what about people around you? Your girlfriends family; the people in the village shop...) Learning a language takes time, so my best advice is use your time at the moment to find a language course. There you will communicate in that language, make friends, make contacts and go from there.

Some people will tell you there's no hope in Switzerland and some people will tell you, you can do whatever you want. You just have to find the right way around it!
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Secretive? More success in Wales?!? If i wanted advice on where to live and what to do with my life i would of asked for it! Im not new to the Graubunden area i have visted frequently and ur opinion of the people who live here are very of the mark!! Talk about sterotypes and prejudice views of people you dont know!
Thanks for the oh so positive comments, they have made my day and the people i live with and their family chuckle and ur opinions of them!
Well I suppose after a couple of years visiting Switzerland you know that I am giving you wrong advice.

I am very, very sorry that I misled you! After only 21 years living here, and having being married to two teachers, and presently living with a teacher, your friends and family know a lot more than I.

Please ignore my ramblings, and go ahead and move here. I am certain after 12 months unemployment your girl friend will be fed up with you and you will be slinking back to Wales after wasting a lot of everyone's time.

I admit I usually give very blunt replies. I don't wrap the details up in rosy statements. I want people to realise when their dreams are unrealistic. People ask for advice here because they are not sure which way to turn. To send you up the wrong path as your Graubündige friends are doing is in my eyes plainly wrong. They have the best intentions but are not being realistic.

Please edit your posts and correct the English spelling & grammar mistakes, and please remove the 3 (or maybe more..) hastily added groans.

As I am a mature balanced person I am fairly immune to your insults. However just to remind you that you have behaved badly I have given you 5 bad points. If you remove the offensive material I will remove the bad reputation points. I can't be fairer than that can I?

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Re: Youth Work

After only 21 years living here, and having being married to two teachers, and presently living with a teacher, your friends and family know a lot more than I.




Failed marriages......wud u like to give me some advice about relationships?!?but having seen ur comments i am not really surprised, god knows what ur like to live with
I wish i had your input before, i would never have worked in south korea, thailand, brazil and russia and wasted all those years u seem wise.

But maybe u have lost touch with ur youthful side and the excitement of living in a foreign country and its possibilities.

Ps i have found work (shock horror)
Pps i have friends in Graubunden
Ppps maybe its cos im young
Pppps please not feel the need to reply

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Failed marriages......wud u like to give me some advice about relationships?!?but having seen ur comments i am not really surprised, god knows what ur like to live with
That's well out of order, mate.
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Also. Is there i 'smiley icon' for a troll on this forum?
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That's well out of order, mate.
90% of the content of his replies are out of order .

Hopefully now that the OP is all set up, he leaves the forum and looks for answers somethere else.
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