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Child Allowance

Advice needed.

Just completed a 1 month fixed term contract for a company in May, and unsure if they paid me child allowance looking @ the payslip.

Are they obliged to do so, or is it optional?

Thanks anyone who can advise?
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Old 20.06.2010, 17:04
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Re: Child Allowance

Kinderzulage is the DE term, and sorry can't help you much about it other than refer you to a thread here.
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Old 20.06.2010, 17:07
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Re: Child Allowance

It's obligatory. The rate is cantonal. If your wife works, it's the employer of the parent with highest revenue that pays the allowance. You'll need to fill a form with information on your children.
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Old 20.06.2010, 18:56
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Re: Child Allowance

It's the parent with the higher revenue who receives the allowance (even 10 Sfr hugher eh !)
But ONLY if that parent is working in the same canton where the child is attending school.

example:
Child goes to school and lives in canton Zurich.
Parent A lives in canton Zurich, has the higher salary but works in canton Argau
Parent B lives in canton Zurich, has the lower salary and works in canton Zurich

Parent B receives the allowance (new rules since last year)
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Re: Child Allowance

also..... it could take a few months to sort out the paper work.... but don't worry they'll cover the amounts owed to you retroactively
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Re: Child Allowance

Either parent can claim the allowance in our case since I work in Zug. I think you may have to work at least 50% to claim.

I know this because after the new rules were introduced, I started claiming it and I am the lower salary earner, working 60%.

All Kantons have paid the same amount since Jan 2009. chf 300 per kid per month with no reduction for subsequent kids like there used to be.

You apply through the SVA (I think from memory) and you need to submit (generally through your employer) birth certificates for all kids and your marriage certificate - so your employer can't simply set this up for you and start paying you.

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Re: Child Allowance

I think you have to organize this with HR???
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Re: Child Allowance

The amount varies slightly among the cantons and may depend on the number of children and their age.
E.g. in Aargau it is 200 for child per month up to 16, then 250 until 25 if the child learns/studies.

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http://www.kinderzulage.ch/main/
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Re: Child Allowance

Markalex,

You will only get it if your HR applied for it. You should have sent them an application form for Kinderzulage, your childrens birth certificates, and a copy of the E411 (swiss version) with part A completed in duplicate. The HR department would them submit everything to the SVA in Geneva who then send the E411 to the child benefit office in the UK. Once the Child benefit office has stamped the document, and informed the swiss SVA what you or your partner (if appropriate) recieve if anything in the UK they would then authorise the payment of the differential here in Switzerland.

The rate of Payment in Zug is 300CHF per child up to the age of 16, after this if they are still in education the rate increases. Therefore if you are claiming anything in the UK you would get the diffrence between that sum and the 300CHF.

PS. You do not need to submit marriage certs, as it is not dependant on your civil status (this would only affect your tax rate).

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Re: Child Allowance

Hi, I am not a guru regarding child allowance and I think that the HR of a respective company is a proper place to ask questions, however, I might share some info from my past. My wife works in canton Zurich, and this is where we have live. For about one year I have been employed canton Zug. Now, In Zurich the amount for each child is(was) 200 CHF while in Zug 280. Since my wife already received these benefits, I was getting a difference between Zurich and Zug - 80 CHF per month per child.
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Re: Child Allowance

[QUOTE=Sky;852966]It's the parent with the higher revenue who receives the allowance (even 10 Sfr hugher eh !)
But ONLY if that parent is working in the same canton where the child is attending school.

What if my wife and 3 children (aged 18-25 in full time education) live in the UK, and I live and work in CH, and have the higher income.
The UK benefit office does not pay child benefit after 18 years of age, so is Form E411 sent to CH first, then on to UK, or sent to UK first then to CH?
Not sure about which country the form starts the claim process in, as only CH pays the benefit after 18 years of age (if in education).
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Re: Child Allowance

This is so confusing.

Scenario:

Father and mother live in Zug but both work in Zurich, so father claims the child allowance as the highest earner.

ZH pays 250 chf but Zug where they live pays 300 chf. Is the father eligible to also apply in Zug for the difference in payment?
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Re: Child Allowance

As we got the allowance for 2020 paid in 2021 and I am filling in the tax declaration for 2020:

- is the cantonal child allowance of 200fr/month in Zurich taxed? i.e. should I add it as income?

I haven't seen any section in the tax form to include it, but maybe it falls under income given that it is paid out via employers... ?
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Re: Child Allowance

Yes,,its taxed. And yes it comes in as regular income. Tho you dont pay %AHV on it.

Usually you would enter the 'net' income in the tax form, oder?

ie; X + child allowance - AHV etc = Net Income.
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Re: Child Allowance

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As we got the allowance for 2020 paid in 2021 and I am filling in the tax declaration for 2020:

- is the cantonal child allowance of 200fr/month in Zurich taxed? i.e. should I add it as income?

I haven't seen any section in the tax form to include it, but maybe it falls under income given that it is paid out via employers... ?

BDO Switzerland says (translated):

"Child allowances

Child allowances and any family allowances are not subject to AHV, but they are taxable income. The child allowances of employed persons are shown under item 1 in the salary statement together with the salary. They are therefore not usually visible to the taxpayer.

Self-employed persons must also declare child allowances in their tax return. Child allowances are best entered in the private account, where they are clearly visible when preparing the tax return. If the child allowances are transferred to a private account, their declaration in the tax return must not be forgotten. If the child allowances are booked to the income statement, AHV is unnecessarily deducted from the corresponding amount. Often, the child allowances are recorded under a collective item "Other income"."

https://www.bdo.ch/de-ch/publikation...kindern-teil-1
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