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Considering moving back to CH

Hello falks,

I have been folowing the English forum for long and enjoy to read the helpful tips many users are giving here, definitely much better that other countries foreigners' forums.

My wife and I used to live in Ch and are considering moving back there, as we wish to start a family and although not everything was Gold back then (some annoying Swiss mentality....) looks like quality of live is the winning part of Switzerland.

My wife is a Swiss RN (Regsitered Nurse), 4 years of experience in Private Swiss hospitals and has now 3 years of experience as a Clinical Application Specialist. She speaks fluent Swiss German, High German, English, Czech, Hebrew, basic French and Italian.

I will be finsihing soon my Accounting and Business degree, will be doing my Accounting apprehenship in one of the BIG 4 Accounting offices. I speak Fluent English, Hebrew, good High German that I am improving all time with Courses, good Spanish and understand Dutch.

The idea is that according to research we are doing all the time, Accounting jobs (I mean an "Accountant" title with a Bsc. Degree) and Pharma jobs are well paid in Switzerland and in high demand.

We have contacetd several jobs agencies and were told that insight of the current market conditions, we should expect a joint salary of 200K, per year, before taxes, bonuses and 13th Salaries.

1) I am very skeptical - what do u think, soudns reasonable?
2) Back then, I remember there was some plug number in order to calculate the taxes out of a Gross salary, I think it was 20% out of joint salary?
3) I have done a lot of homework and read many threads in forums, mainly here, and would like your opinion - in order to have "good" life in CH, means 2500 Chf flat rent, 1 car at least, going on vacations with kids, + saving lets say 1500 Chf a month, what would be the ideal joint salaries ?
4) When we lived in Switzerland, we really enjoyed Hiking, and travelling in the Alps, felt like a really great place to live in that sense - do u also have this feeling when you have kids in Switzerland? Do you not feel that the atmosphere and mentality is kind of too "harsh" sometimes?

Wow, that was a long post, would appreciate any reply, tips, ideas that would help us to research and decide if to go back or not

Thanks a lot and enjoy your week!

Michael
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Re: Considering moving back to CH

I meant "apprenticeship" obviously, sorry for the typo
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Not sure of others' experience, but I find the majority of others in hiking / holiday places are very supportive, helpful and tolerant of children ... even when they're very loud.
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I am really not sure how correct the info on salaries is, since there are many accountants with bachelor degree at least and there is quite a competition for jobs these days. So, let's see if the pros see this post and feel like chipping in with some wisdom. Nurses are in demand where we live, that's for sure. I saw quite a few job postings for accountants as well in our area, but all those had to speak fluent En/Fr/Ger, pretty much, it was the language factor that was important. (Just a hint, though, if you write in your cover letter or a CV that you speak fluent Eng, run your text through a spell-check ). But even if you get 150 000 a year between the two of you, I think you would be completely ok, no matter how crazy your spending plans are.

It is a nice place here, pretty much what you make of it, don't let the nuissance and other background noise deter you. It does feel claustrophobic at times to some, or pedantic, everyone is expected to march in line, people can be distant, etc but overall, if you aren't some kind of asocial and hard to comply person, lots of the rules make sense and you just get on with it..If I could chose to raise my child elsewhere, though, for the richness of culture, thoughts and lifestyle, maybe different cultural priorities and fun, I probably would.
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If you are coming here to have kids, surely your joint salary is going to lose half of it's earner, although not necessarily half the money or you are going to have to shell out at least 2k a month for day care of some description.
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