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Am I entitled to.... [unemployment benefits for frontaliers]

Unemployment benefit in France if I quit my job in Geneva working for nearly two and a half years with a G frontalier permit
i am a uk citizen any help or advice greatly appreciated
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Re: Am I entitled to....

The opposite would be possible, i.e. after working in an EU country, if you move to Switzerland you can get unemployment for a certain time. In the case of Ireland this was about 3 months if you have already applied for jobseeker's benefit in Ireland. What they do in the new country is just get your benefits from the original country and pay you. You would have to get some forms proving your employment though. So there is a chance that the other way around is possible. Hope someone can give a better answer.
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i have been living in france for the last two and a half years but making my living in geneva
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i have been living in france for the last two and a half years but making my living in geneva
I know the answer to this!
Why don't you ask the authorities in France???
sorry but somethings are better answered by someone who's job it is to answer these sort of questions...

besides is it not easier to claim benefit in Switzerland, assuming that you've been contributing to some sort of unemployment insurance?
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besides is it not easier to claim benefit in Switzerland, assuming that you've been contributing to some sort of unemployment insurance?
This is a good point, have you been paying into unemployment insurance en Suisse? If so you should be able to claim here...
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but i live on the french side
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but i live on the french side
it doesn't matter where you live! You paid for the insurance, you lose your job, the insurance pays out! simples!

edit: and if the insurance doesn't pay out, then you should contact them to get claw back your premiums as you paid for an insurance you don't need!
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Re: Am I entitled to....

I think with B,C or G permits the status is the same. So you should be contributing to unemployment program. Can you get any of your payslips? If you can see the 5.5% cut from your salary then you can claim it from Switzerland.
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but im quitting my job
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but im quitting my job
I'm looking for job, what do you do.... who do you work for?
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Re: Am I entitled to.... [unemployment benefits for frontaliers]

If you resign in Geneva you could claim unemployment but have to wait 6 weeks before receiving any benefit. If you haven't paid any taxes or insurance money in France then why should they pay you unemployment money?

You need to ask at the relevant offices in France where you live and in the Geneva ORP where you work. The answer will probably be a loud non!. You should continue working and look for another job. Life is tough but many people are in the same situation, at least you still have a job!
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Re: Am I entitled to.... [unemployment benefits for frontaliers]

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Even if you quit your job, you're entitled to claim for unemployment salary with 60 days penalty. I advise you to go to the unemployment agency in your commune and talk to them.
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it doesn't matter where you live! You paid for the insurance, you lose your job, the insurance pays out! simples!

edit: and if the insurance doesn't pay out, then you should contact them to get claw back your premiums as you paid for an insurance you don't need!
It is compulsory insurance withheld at your salary and paid to the authorities.... so you can't really claw back anything or refuse to pay...
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Unemployment benefit in France if I quit my job in Geneva working for nearly two and a half years with a G frontalier permit
i am a uk citizen any help or advice greatly appreciated
regards
Found these... I assume that you can read some french....

http://www.travailler-en-suisse.ch/h...efices-chomage

http://www.guidechomage.ch/guide.asp...tre=12&Liste=1

In summary it say that when you have a G permit, in case of full unemployment, you will be compensated by the country in which you reside.

Le principe du "pays du dernier emploi" n’est pas valable pour les frontaliers qui, en cas de chômage complet, restent indemnisés par leur pays de résidence et selon les barèmes de celui-ci (voir chapitre 11).

I am not sure what they mean by full and partial unemployment though... as in case of partial unemployment the compensation will be by the Swiss...
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Re: Am I entitled to.... [unemployment benefits for frontaliers]

Tell us what type of permit you have please, as what the previous poster said/quoted seems to me like the sort of thing you should be looking at.
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permit g frontalier and i live in france
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Re: Am I entitled to.... [unemployment benefits for frontaliers]

My usual answer: check with the Groupement de Frontaliers, at least their web-site. They are full of obscure knowledge.

For what it's worth, my opinion is that you aren't going to get much in the way of unemployment benefit in France if you resign.
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Re: Am I entitled to.... [unemployment benefits for frontaliers]

In case you should loose or leave your job, this is what you'd have to do:

  1. Get an 'employer's attestation' («attestation d’employeur») from your employer.
  2. Go to an unemployment insurance fund in Switzerland (eg. UNIA*) and get them to fill in form E301 for you. In order to do so, you need to bring along the following documents/information:
    • AVS number
    • 'employer's attestation' («attestation d’employeur») from employer
    • last 6 or 12 payslips
    • employment contract
    • letter of cancellation (written notice from employer)
    • passport/identity card
  3. In France, get an appointment with Pôle Employ (ASSEDIC), you will then get an appointment. You will have to bring along the completed form E301, alongside other documents.
* Unia Caisse de chômage, Genève 60/121 (nom de l'assuré A - N)
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T: 022 906 98 30 (lun - ven 14.00 - 17.00)
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