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I believe key to success for our friend here Tony is to post more on the EF. See, you got over 4k posts...Tony has a little over 300, thus he's not very well known and people are reluctant to attend an event, which is organized by a lesser known individual. Look at for instance my KFC events...I got 28 people to meet up and drive to another country just for some wings....people didn't join because of the food...the food is crap, but it was fun to meet some forum incumbents and be a part of the banter.
Tis true I did not go to Ploughmans lunch for the food (which was fantastic btw) but to meet GG and to see Teckla.
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Old 02.12.2011, 12:39
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I would hope you have a half tax, most do. If you consume a few beers and eat something i reckon that 15.- you paid on the train would even itself out over the evening as we are far cheaper than zurich.
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Hey Grumpy

Thats a very interesting concept. I have to disagree on a couple of points though, you have picked out mexican, spanish and indian and failed to mention the scottish breakfast, kfc night or the turkey christmas meal. These 3 are menu's which sophisticated or not, british people miss having the opportunity to get in Switzerland. These were the particular ones i have created for the englishforum members and only Lib has turned up.

The Indian buffet which we had was better than any other indian restaurant i have attended in Switzerland, we had an original Tandoor clay oven in the terrace baking up home-made naan bread and tandoori chicken, for the price of 25.- (eat all you want) it is also cheaper than any other indian restaurant (evening price)
As a Zuricher, I ask myself: what will make me drive/take the train ALL the way out to a pub in Lenzburg?

Just some of my thoughts:

1. KFC event: I have to agree with LIB. The point of the KFC events is not about the food. Again he is right: the food is rubbish - unhealthy processed crap - but what makes it fun personally, is that it started as a whinge at the lack of KFC here led to a brainwave as a fun adventure part 1, 2, 3, 4,, 5..... People sign up not only for the banter during the journey but the idea of driving to another country for chicken is pretty mad. Plus the opportunity to shop at Carrefour is pretty appealing.

2. Indian buffets/themed nights: Whilst your prices are very attractive, there are proper Indian restaurants that do the same in Zurich from time to time. On ala carte alone, one of my fav, the Tandoori BBQ doesnt charge an arm and leg for good Indian food. For 30CHF, I can have a great and filling meal and there are just as many restaurants along Josefstrasse area cooking authentic South Indian food for 15-20CHF.

3. To bang on the price that you are cheaper than Zurich prices isnt that big of a draw because if you know where to look, there are just as many places here where you can find affordable good meals contrary to popular belief.

4. The "all you can eat" really isnt that much of a draw for me either. I really dont fancy stuffing my face with too much curry/mexican food/KFC-like chicken.

5. Finally, for the non-drivers, paying extra for a train ticket out to Lenzburg even having a halb tax, comes up to 16CHF extra but most people go with a companion. If you add it up, 2 pax with halb tax comes up to 32CHF, 3 comes up to 48CHF.

It adds up and sometimes it makes more sense to pay ZRH prices than the train ticket.

And for the drivers like me, the idea of driving out to a pub really isnt appealing My fav pub in ZRH is located on the other side of the lake: its 45 minutes door to door but I am happy to travel regularly on Sunday nights for their pub quizzes via public transport because their food is good and reasonable priced for ZRH, as well as their regular Sunday night quiz which has become increasingly popular even with the locals.

Grumpy has a point - stick to something that you are good at and slowly build your credibility with it. Word will definitely get around if its good. The vast majority of "gimmicks" will not get you mind share or a loyal following.

You'll want people to associate your pub with something. The St Josef's pub in Langstrasse does Saturday night quizzes but not as regular. So the proverbial question is: what makes the people head down to the Shamrock on a SUNDAY night and risk starting the week with a hangover?

Its regular - it started out small but they stuck at it. With friendly service, decent food - word got around and its still going strong.

Sorry if some of the points came across as blunt. I wish you the best of luck.
I look forward to visiting your pub soon - a good authentic Sunday roast perhaps?
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Haha, "also you are celtic fans" being a good or a bad thing, spill it!
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Re: A little disappointed in the EF regarding events!

I am in Aargau and would come ... but this is the first time I've heard of your pub! Post more!
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Old 02.12.2011, 12:50
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If you do a proper fish and chips (salt and vinegar) then I will be there.
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Possibly one of the problems is cost. Some of the events advertised seem very expensive. We are having 38 tomorrow for a Christmas raclette and the cost will be 15CHF per person (each bringing their drink and either a pud or a pack of charcuterie).
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Maybe he will do an Irish night, there is lot to be done with a potato
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We have been talking about a british sunday brunch. The more members i could attract, the better the menu i could have on offer. Would you suggest that i try this on a day with a big football match (which was my plan) or do you think it would be more attractive to most when there was no big match on
It depends really. For me personally I'd probably prefer to have it on a day when there isn't a game. Not because I'm not a big footie fan but because my 2 year old would be with me and I'm not sure a rowdy pub atmosphere is the best place for her.

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Look at for instance my KFC events...I got 28 people to meet up and drive to another country just for some wings
Round 2 anytime soon?

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Thats a very interesting concept. I have to disagree on a couple of points though, you have picked out mexican, spanish and indian and failed to mention the scottish breakfast, kfc night or the turkey christmas meal. These 3 are menu's which sophisticated or not, british people miss having the opportunity to get in Switzerland.

The Indian buffet which we had was better than any other indian restaurant i have attended in Switzerland
I love food but more importantly I would attend one of your events solely to meet people and to have a good time out. I think the KFC idea was EPIC! I wanted to come but my German classes on Thursday evenings only end at 10pm.

Indian restaurants in Zurich are a joke.........................I wish I'd heard about you guys earlier.
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Old 02.12.2011, 14:11
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Ok, so what i need to do is post hundered of pointless comments on every thread whether i know a bit about it or not? Welcome these notifications in my inbox
I love that it was Nil who groaned this (guess I got one coming too ).
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Old 02.12.2011, 14:17
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Indian restaurants in Zurich are a joke.........................I wish I'd heard about you guys earlier.
Interesting! Which to avoid?
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Interesting! Which to avoid?
Well, I'm not comfortable naming places here (doesn't help that I'm a defenceless newbie!) However, that being said, I should highlight that I'm Malaysian with a north Indian ethnic background. Hence my expectations are most likely of a completely different standard, which I suppose is the problem. I must admit though that I'm still on a quest to find decent South Asian food!

Good news is I've found my fix for yummy spicy nasi goreng in Zurich! (not particularly Indian, I realise but what can I say! Yummmmmm..)
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Re: A little disappointed in the EF regarding events!

Nasi Goreng ( Fried Rice ).

OT, but here is a recent article about a Swiss teacher being fired about it.

Swiss teacher Bernard Junod has been sacked from his job after posing at the gates of the Auschwitz concentration camp with a bag of ‘Nasi Goreng’ fried rice in his hand. More
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Well, I'm not comfortable naming places here (doesn't help that I'm a defenceless newbie!) However, that being said, I should highlight that I'm Malaysian with a north Indian ethnic background. Hence my expectations are most likely of a completely different standard, which I suppose is the problem. I must admit though that I'm still on a quest to find decent South Asian food!

Good news is I've found my fix for yummy spicy nasi goreng in Zurich! (not particularly Indian, I realise but what can I say! Yummmmmm..)
If you name places without any malicious intent but facts, there's a chance you'll survive I dont see anything wrong in naming places to avoid for the sake of the community. For example: the Chinese restaurants in Zurich thread - lots of differing opinions about the restaurants, some positive, some negative:
Chinese restaurants in Zurich

I am a Singaporean, albeit not indian but with access to good authentic Indian food all my life: there ARE good places. Will pm you if you promise to PM me back re the nasi goreng!!!! AHHHH

Back on topic! Sorry for the slight hijack!
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Re: A little disappointed in the EF regarding events!

I talked about this one during the Indonesian night, so I thought about dropping the line here:

http://www.rani.ch/

I'm in no way an Indian food specialist, but I really loved this place. The food is (for me) very tasty, and the service is wonderful. The owner is wonderfully nice, and the waiters extremely nice, friendly, and helpful to Indian-language/food-ignorant such as me. All people that I know and ate there have given very positive responses.

Hope it helps people in need of an Indian fix. And this sounds naughty somehow.


Sorry for going out of topic, but I thought people deserved to get some nice tips.
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Maybe he will do an Irish night, there is lot to be done with a potato
That is bigoted im afraid, i can take a pounding about celtic not winning the league or not having success but to prey on the poor irish people that had to live through the potato famine is below the belt. I am sure that there are plenty of irish on here which should also credit you with a groan
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That is bigoted im afraid, i can take a pounding about celtic not winning the league or not having success but to prey on the poor irish people that had to live through the potato famine is below the belt. I am sure that there are plenty of irish on here which should also credit you with a groan
From the guy who called rangers fans huns on his facebook?
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As a Zuricher, I ask myself: what will make me drive/take the train ALL the way out to a pub in Lenzburg?

Just some of my thoughts:

1. KFC event: I have to agree with LIB. The point of the KFC events is not about the food. Again he is right: the food is rubbish - unhealthy processed crap - but what makes it fun personally, is that it started as a whinge at the lack of KFC here led to a brainwave as a fun adventure part 1, 2, 3, 4,, 5..... People sign up not only for the banter during the journey but the idea of driving to another country for chicken is pretty mad. Plus the opportunity to shop at Carrefour is pretty appealing.

2. Indian buffets/themed nights: Whilst your prices are very attractive, there are proper Indian restaurants that do the same in Zurich from time to time. On ala carte alone, one of my fav, the Tandoori BBQ doesnt charge an arm and leg for good Indian food. For 30CHF, I can have a great and filling meal and there are just as many restaurants along Josefstrasse area cooking authentic South Indian food for 15-20CHF.

3. To bang on the price that you are cheaper than Zurich prices isnt that big of a draw because if you know where to look, there are just as many places here where you can find affordable good meals contrary to popular belief.

4. The "all you can eat" really isnt that much of a draw for me either. I really dont fancy stuffing my face with too much curry/mexican food/KFC-like chicken.

5. Finally, for the non-drivers, paying extra for a train ticket out to Lenzburg even having a halb tax, comes up to 16CHF extra but most people go with a companion. If you add it up, 2 pax with halb tax comes up to 32CHF, 3 comes up to 48CHF.

It adds up and sometimes it makes more sense to pay ZRH prices than the train ticket.

And for the drivers like me, the idea of driving out to a pub really isnt appealing My fav pub in ZRH is located on the other side of the lake: its 45 minutes door to door but I am happy to travel regularly on Sunday nights for their pub quizzes via public transport because their food is good and reasonable priced for ZRH, as well as their regular Sunday night quiz which has become increasingly popular even with the locals.

Grumpy has a point - stick to something that you are good at and slowly build your credibility with it. Word will definitely get around if its good. The vast majority of "gimmicks" will not get you mind share or a loyal following.

You'll want people to associate your pub with something. The St Josef's pub in Langstrasse does Saturday night quizzes but not as regular. So the proverbial question is: what makes the people head down to the Shamrock on a SUNDAY night and risk starting the week with a hangover?

Its regular - it started out small but they stuck at it. With friendly service, decent food - word got around and its still going strong.

Sorry if some of the points came across as blunt. I wish you the best of luck.
I look forward to visiting your pub soon - a good authentic Sunday roast perhaps?

Some great input there, just want you to know though that all our chicken was freshly cooked on the day, so maybe you would prefer it to KFC It was the idea we copied as opposed to the exact recipes.

Our idea of eat all you can is more to give you a selection of different foods that you can help yourself to. If you go for a normal meal you will only choose 1 dish, whereas at our buffet, you can take a little of each.

We do have a regular pub quiz, which is the last monday of every month, but i do not like to post every event on the forum, ie, quiz, bands, football. People yould get sick of the sight of us on the calendar, but if you would recommend it we could start.

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It depends really. For me personally I'd probably prefer to have it on a day when there isn't a game. Not because I'm not a big footie fan but because my 2 year old would be with me and I'm not sure a rowdy pub atmosphere is the best place for her.

Trust me, you only have to utter an expletive once in front of her and she repeats it endlessly for weeks to come. I really shouldn't lose my temper with our bloody cat
Or maybe i could arrange it before a big game meaning that people have the option to stay for the game or not, thanks
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That is bigoted im afraid, i can take a pounding about celtic not winning the league or not having success but to prey on the poor irish people that had to live through the potato famine is below the belt. I am sure that there are plenty of irish on here which should also credit you with a groan
I am sure the majority of Irish would find it funny (the joke, not the famine of course), only the plastic Paddy's from Scotland will call it bigoted
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