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Good restaurants just over the Swiss border in German/France/Italy?

I am interested in good recommendations for restaurants close to the Swiss border. I am based in Zurich so am mainly interested in the Swiss-German border areas but I am sure the thread would be useful for people in Geneva / Ticino areas too so please feel free to make recommendations for any border in Switzerland.

Suggestions for places I am interested in:
  • All you can eat Asian restaurants of decent quality (for example kind where you take the fresh buffet ingredients to the chefs and they cook it in front of you).
  • High quality fine dining restaurants including Michelin star.
  • Any other good restaurant of any cuisine (steakhouses, Indian, Greek, BBQ, etc etc) that you can recommend.

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  • The name of the restaurant
  • The type of cuisine
  • Location of the restaurant
  • A rough price range (Cheap/Medium/Expensive)
  • A link to the restaurant website or social media page if possible to make it easy to check reviews and menus
  • Any personal reviews or feedback you have (for Tom, because he apparently needs that spelling out).

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Old 23.11.2019, 22:29
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Re: Good restaurants just over the Swiss border in German/France/Italy?

https://www.tenmanya.de/ You can't go wrong here. All you can eat buffet as well.
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https://www.tenmanya.de/ You can't go wrong here. All you can eat buffet as well.
Nice... only an hour drive.
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Re: Good restaurants just over the Swiss border in German/France/Italy?

"all you can eat" restaurants are not really geared up to be good, they are usually quite cheap but this is reflected 100% in the quality of food on offer.
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Old 24.11.2019, 09:53
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Re: Good restaurants just over the Swiss border in German/France/Italy?

We went to the Tenmanya once - admittedly only for lunch and not the 'stuff-your-face' evening buffet. It was after it was recommended on this forum.

The food was pretty dire. Certainly wouldn't go there again.

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All you can eat Asian restaurants of decent quality (for example kind where you take the fresh buffet ingredients to the chefs and they cook it in front of you).
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  • The type of cuisine
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  • A rough price range (Cheap/Medium/Expensive)
  • A link to the restaurant website or social media page if possible to make it easy to check reviews and menus
No personal reviews wanted?
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Re: Good restaurants just over the Swiss border in German/France/Italy?

Will you drive, or take a train?
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Re: Good restaurants just over the Swiss border in German/France/Italy?

The name of the restaurant: Spasiklas
The type of cuisine: Greek/Bavarian fusion
Location of the restaurant: Frankfurt
A rough price range (Cheap/Medium/Expensive): cheap
A link to the restaurant website or social media page if possible to make it easy to check reviews and menus: Mr Agamisou, the proprietor, doesn't go in for all that nonsense, but everyone in the village knows him so just ask after him and you'll find his place in no time. The menu varies from day to day, depending on seasonal availability, Mr Agamisou's mood, and how promptly he paid his last gas bill.

"Faye skata!" as they say in Greek (Enjoy your meal).
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Re: Good restaurants just over the Swiss border in German/France/Italy?

If you are not a vegetarian or a vegan, support green parties and etc ... my all time favourite is:

http://www.la-estancia-waldshut.de/home.html

Unless Frankfurt‘s border is moved towards Waldshut-Tiengen, your choices will be somewhat limited mate!
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We went to the Tenmanya once - admittedly only for lunch and not the 'stuff-your-face' evening buffet. It was after it was recommended on this forum.

The food was pretty dire. Certainly wouldn't go there again.

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No personal reviews wanted?
Well obviously personal reviews are wanted (do I really need to write that? ) but I am just trying to specify the bare minimum of information to provide when you post a restaurant.

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Doesn't matter, just suggest restaurants close to the border and how people get there is their own problem.
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Well obviously personal reviews are wanted (do I really need to write that? ) but I am just trying to specify the bare minimum of information to provide when you post a restaurant.
Well, I'd say yes as your list of requirements was pretty comprehensive!
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Well, I'd say yes as your list of requirements was pretty comprehensive!
I don't know what Chuff does for a living, but I sincerely hope it isn't programming!
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Re: Good restaurants just over the Swiss border in German/France/Italy?

For all you can eat Chinese buffets there are several in Weil am Rhein and Lorrach just across the border from Basel. I have also seen a couple in St Louis (France). I haven't been to any of them so I can't really tell you which one is good.

Recommendations from friends (French and German borders with Basel):

Espace Berakah (African food, mainly from the Ivory Coast) Link

Fuji Sushi (Japanese, including but not limited to Sushi) Link

La Bufala (Italian) Link

Restaurant Vanilla Link

Grill Palast (Turkish grill and pizzas) Link


Here are some from the Lake Konstanz region:

AsiaWorld (Chinese Buffet) Link

DreiKoenig Steakhouse Link

Cleopatra (Egyptian, also includes a shisha lounge) Link

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Doesn't matter, just suggest restaurants close to the border and how people get there is their own problem.
I beg to differ, especially since you are asking for Michelin Star recs. Since you are looking near the border, that suggests a day trip. If you're driving, I'd probably avoid anywhere too upscale where you'd like to have a few glasses of wine. If you're on the train, no worries, but getting to most Michelin places isn't really practical with public transport.

If you're looking upscale and drive, I'd probably forget the border and push the boat out slightly further to go somewhere on the Dijon-Beaune-Lyon route, stay overnight.
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Re: Good restaurants just over the Swiss border in German/France/Italy?

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I beg to differ, especially since you are asking for Michelin Star recs. Since you are looking near the border, that suggests a day trip. If you're driving, I'd probably avoid anywhere too upscale where you'd like to have a few glasses of wine. If you're on the train, no worries, but getting to most Michelin places isn't really practical with public transport.

If you're looking upscale and drive, I'd probably forget the border and push the boat out slightly further to go somewhere on the Dijon-Beaune-Lyon route, stay overnight.
Dijon itself is super convenient to get to from Zurich on the train too. Hard to find a bad restaurant there too.

If driving and pushing the boat out, staying at the Traube Tonbach in the Black Forest and eating at their 3* Traube Tonbach restaurant is a wonderful experience. One of our favourite hotels and restaurants anywhere.
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Dijon itself is super convenient to get to from Zurich on the train too. Hard to find a bad restaurant there too.

If driving and pushing the boat out, staying at the Traube Tonbach in the Black Forest and eating at their 3* Traube Tonbach restaurant is a wonderful experience. One of our favourite hotels and restaurants anywhere.
I think I got unlucky in Dijon - went to Frachot and it was one of the worst meals I've ever had. Friends have been elsewhere and say it is their fave gourmet town - I got unlucky I guess!
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I think I got unlucky in Dijon - went to Frachot and it was one of the worst meals I've ever had. Friends have been elsewhere and say it is their fave gourmet town - I got unlucky I guess!
We weren’t impressed by Dijon either so I guess we’re unlucky too.
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I think I got unlucky in Dijon - went to Frachot and it was one of the worst meals I've ever had. Friends have been elsewhere and say it is their fave gourmet town - I got unlucky I guess!
Interesting. We had the burgundy tasting menu there and there thought it was excellent, as was the wine pairing. Can’t remember the name of the 1* we ate at, but it was also up to standard. Also had a meal at the 1* near the race track after I’d done a track day and was impressed.
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Re: Good restaurants just over the Swiss border in German/France/Italy?

One of our favourites.

http://www.waldshuter-hof.de/en/kulinarik

The Swiss don't like it as they do not use "aromat".

There is an elevator so if you struggle with stairs, no worries here.
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Well, I'd say yes as your list of requirements was pretty comprehensive!
Depends on your personal standards I guess! I don't quite consider a few small lines of detail "comprehensive", but each to their own and in the end as long as I have a name and location I can find a place.

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I beg to differ, especially since you are asking for Michelin Star recs. Since you are looking near the border, that suggests a day trip. If you're driving, I'd probably avoid anywhere too upscale where you'd like to have a few glasses of wine. If you're on the train, no worries, but getting to most Michelin places isn't really practical with public transport.

If you're looking upscale and drive, I'd probably forget the border and push the boat out slightly further to go somewhere on the Dijon-Beaune-Lyon route, stay overnight.
Sure, we can agree to disagree about the transport aspect as I think for the purposes of the thread its just easier to list restaurants near the borders and just assume that people will use Google maps and work out their own transport to see if its feasible or not.

Wine isn't an issue for me as I only care about the food so am happy to be the designated driver 99% of the time. I'm also not looking for overnight stays, just restaurants near the border that can be done in one convenient afternoon/evening trip.

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Re: Good restaurants just over the Swiss border in German/France/Italy?

Pan Taverne
Salmannsweilergass, Konstanz

In the old town in Konstanz.

Greek restaurant run by a Greek. Inexpensive, filling, tasty food.

Been quite a few times for lunch. Always busy.
The grilled octopus and the lamb hotpot are good.

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