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I doubt it, students also recive many monetary priviliges and benefits.
wishful thinking but unfortunately not...
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well it is a completely different thing, the butcher at migros is not delivering me my meat, and the cashier at petrol station doesn't bring my fuel to the car (although i always tip the person who fills up my tank)
delivery is an extra service and those students r paid almost nothing, they count on tips...
Yes, but the delivery guy is paid for dooing pizza delivery or whatever it is and the pizza bakery is his employer not the customer who orders something.
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I guess you have never had a girlfriend who worked as a waiter
They party alright, they just start later and end later than the rest of us

haha true, but im most cases I was the waiter....and which money did we use to party....TIPS that is if we changed venues from where we worked...I did mostly bars and restaurants that would turn into a club later....
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Yes, but the delivery guy is paid for dooing pizza delivery or whatever it is and the pizza bakery is his employer not the customer who orders something.

The key word is SERVICE....thats what you give the tip for
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Old 23.02.2010, 21:49
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2. you get what you work for.
Simple as that
Not necessarily. Have to disagree with you there. Often physical advantages can get you higher tips and you can be lazy as f**k...(eg big boobs etc).

Some work damn hard and dont get tips while others do nothing, happen to server the right table at the right time and get a huge tip. Nothing fair about tipping at all.
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So nearly everybody started tipping again. Even most of the owners of many hairdressing salons expect a tip.
Depending on the area where you live (kanton, country) i never would pay tip for an mediocre mens haircut which takes 20minutes and beeing charged SFr.36.-
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Not necessarily. Have to disagree with you there. Often physical advantages can get you higher tips and you can be lazy as f**k...(eg big boobs etc).

Some work damn hard and dont get tips while others do nothing, happen to server the right table at the right time and get a huge tip. Nothing fair about tipping at all.

mmm I find that hard to believe. maybe in some places.... but in the end wouldnt you agree it averages out. meaning that you get good tables one day, bad the other.

the boobs is possible only when u are doing an only guys table, otherwise it does not matter
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Yes, but the delivery guy is paid for dooing pizza delivery or whatever it is and the pizza bakery is his employer not the customer who orders something.
first of all i am not telling to pay the delivery guy's salary, i am saying to tip him... the delivery guy brings your order whether it rains or snow, and i belive they deserve a tip. u r not obliged to do it, buy i do it, and few chf is not gonna kill me and make them happy
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Old 23.02.2010, 22:05
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Re: Tipping delivery drivers?

If only tipping was the norm here or in Germany. You'd certainly have a lot more serving staff who gave a damn then. You still find good waiters and waitresses, of course, and I strongly believe in recognising and encouraging them here with a tip, albeit at nothing like the 20% rate expected in the States. Equally the US system is far from perfect where the tip is automatically expected almost regardless of the experience.

Generally though service here in 'average' establishments can be pretty lacking and disinterested to put it politely. The possibility of a proper tip, rather than a dusty half franc coin, would change that and reduce a lot of the complacency.

As for delivery drivers, if they're on time and manage a smile then I'd say go for it and round up a little and a bit.

I find the attitude of "they are just doing their job which they are paid for so I shall not tip a penny regardless" to be very miserable and reaps what it sows - poor service when there is no incentive to show an interest and excel in service.
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I tip in restaurants unless the service is bad.

I tip the man who brings the mail (and so do my neighbours) at Christmas because our mail boxes are about 50 m from ours houses and he is kind enough to move an arrow, which I installed, in such a way that we understand that the mail has arrived.

I do not tip the boy who brings the newspaper when he attaches his address to the Tribune before Christmas because I consider that the Sfr 379 that I pay annually is quite enough and includes the delivery cost.
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first of all i am not telling to pay the delivery guy's salary
Exactly that are you doing, assuming a delivery guy is payed by hours. Some employer is looking for sombody for delivering pizzas at saturdays, he knows a d guy can make Sfr. 15.- an hour tip. Do you think the employee does not adjust the salary?
It works the same with waiters. And why should i for an already expensive coffee give tip?
If you are 4 people having dinner somwhere in a well known restaurant spending 600.- how much tip would you give if the service and meals were extraordinary, or how much if you had some complaints?

Same with a lunch somewhere casual which is Sfr.50.- per person?

But cant you expect to get the best service anyway and pay what it is written on the price list?
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I find the attitude of "they are just doing there job which they are paid for so I shall not tip a penny regardless" to be very miserable and reaps what it sows - poor service when there is no incentive to show an interest and excel in service.
I tip gladly when I get very good service. Basically though I am not altogether in agreement with your statement. In certain jobs it is customary to tip, in others not. Why should employees in some cases expect a tip when they do their job properly whereas in others nobody thinks of doing so.

Only people who deal with the public can expect tips. Those who work in the background would never be tipped. To me that is not quite logical.

Of course, there are exceptions to this rule. General Managers and people who work for banks and the like are never tipped. They receive compensation is other ways even if their dealings bankrupt their employer .
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Old 23.02.2010, 22:31
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Exactly that are you doing, assuming a delivery guy is payed by hours. Some employer is looking for sombody for delivering pizzas at saturdays, he knows a d guy can make Sfr. 15.- an hour tip. Do you think the employee does not adjust the salary?
It works the same with waiters. And why should i for an already expensive coffee give tip?
If you are 4 people having dinner somwhere in a well known restaurant spending 600.- how much tip would you give if the service and meals were extraordinary, or how much if you had some complaints?

Same with a lunch somewhere casual which is Sfr.50.- per person?

But cant you expect to get the best service anyway and pay what it is written on the price list?
i don't think the employee adjust the salary when it is -10 degree outside or it is snowing, and again it is called "service" and u r free to tip or not

in restaurants i tip regarding the service i recieve, and i don't calculate the tip regarding the bill, we r not in the US where u need to add 15 to 20% tip

i always hope to get the best service, but if the service is good, i will give a good tip and encourage them to continue doing it.
if everybody follows your logic and nobody tips, we would all end up with grumpy waiters/waitresses and not get a good service!!!
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I've searched and found that rounding is the norm for tipping (with the exception of hairdressers). However, I'm used to tipping delivery drivers where I'm from. If I'm to, ahem, order sushi deliver this evening, should I tip the driver? If so, how much?

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No tipping for delivery-drivers is indicated. But to round up, for instance from 19.10 to 20.-- etc is nice style. In case you live on the 4th or 5th floor of a house with a wooden staircase, a small tip might be indicated.

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The waiter is not and depends on tips.

I am all against tipping here also since they make enough money and can easily depend on the wage they make. but every now and then I feel it is ok to tip.

And why is it bad to have tips as part of the income.
1. there not taxed
2. you get what you work for.
Simple as that
I generally do not give tips in restaurants. Except when I get an extraordinary service of some kind.

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Any swiss friend of mine always gives at least a small tip when visiting a restaurant and when ordering in so the idea of "introducing" it to switzerland is just hogwash..
I think it is wrong to ALWAYS give a tip, as the tip is included in the price. If the service and everything however was good and pleasant why not give an "add-on" ? Common is to round up, for instance from 7.65 to 8.--. This is not regarded as a real "tip" but simply as a nice gesture.

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The key word is SERVICE....thats what you give the tip for
The question is how you define "service". If your definition simply is the delivery-action, then no tip is indicated. If your definition however means a swift and excellent service, then a tip might be considered. I over the past five years had three such "deliveries" and twice the "service" was just mediocre (in one case even grumpy) and so ZERO tip, but in one case it was superb in every way and so 3 CHF were my tip.

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I sent a killer email today about competitor intelligence. Tomorrow, I will receive my salary payment, the same as I get every month.

I bought a CHF3.50 cup of coffee at work today. I paid CHF3.50 for it.
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Just out of curiosity, what happens if you don't tip 15-20% in the states? Or not tip at all?
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Old 24.02.2010, 09:11
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interesting thread...

did you give him a tip after all?
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Just out of curiosity, what happens if you don't tip 15-20% in the states? Or not tip at all?
I've heard some horror stories about that.

Sometimes wait staff chase the customer out of the restaurant to ask what was wrong.

Other times that they have a black list in the restaurant of people who don't tip.

I'm really torn between if tips are a good or bad thing.

On one hand you can reduce the cost of the food and encourage tipping by reducing the wait staff's wage. This would allow the wait staff to put more effort in so that they earn that tip, thus you get better service.

But if you increase the price of the food. Then there is no incentive for your waiter to go above and beyond because they get a decent wage anyway. So the customer suffers.


Personally I tip 10% regardless. But I think in the US 10% is the minimum that you give for bad service. I'd give nothing for bad service
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Old 24.02.2010, 10:00
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Re: Tipping delivery drivers?

I'm not stingy and I tip, but but I don't like it one bit (I usually round up the bill for the delivery guy). I will gladly pay more for the service, but tipping feels like charity, a handout. And I'm never sure how much you should give and to whom exactly. If you tip your hairdresser, should you also tip your dentist etc? If you tip the sushi delivery guy, why not Fedex delivery guy or your postman every morning? So I clearly prefer countries where tipping is not encouraged. And as it was said in a previous similar thread, tip should be a recognition of exceptional service, not a mandatory addition, no matter what the service was like.
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I'm not stingy and I tip, but but I don't like it one bit (I usually round up the bill for the delivery guy). I will gladly pay more for the service, but tipping feels like charity, a handout. And I'm never sure how much you should give and to whom exactly. If you tip your hairdresser, should you also tip your dentist etc? If you tip the sushi delivery guy, why not Fedex delivery guy or your postman every morning? So I clearly prefer countries where tipping is not encouraged. And as it was said in a previous similar thread, tip should be a recognition of exceptional service, not a mandatory addition, no matter what the service was like.
What about a paramedic who saves your life as well. They are very highly paid and what they do is far more important than waiting tables.

They should leave their card on unconscious people so that they can send the 10-20% tip at a later time dependant on whether they die or not
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