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What about a paramedic who saves your life as well. They are very highly paid and what they do is far more important than waiting tables.

They should leave their card on unconscious people so that they can send the 10-20% tip at a later time dependant on whether they die or not
This is a good point. A paramedic is very comparable to a delivery guy......in a way. Both require bringing something to you (be is medical supplies or food), in both cases speed of the delivery is key to the customer satisfaction and if either were being rude to you you would not be in the lest bit amused by that. So why are paramedics not tipped?

The rules seem to be really strange. I don't see why a delivery guy should be tipped, what exceptional service is he going to give you? I'd rather tip the chef if the food was exceptional (in a restraunte too)
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The rules seem to be really strange. I don't see why a delivery guy should be tipped, what exceptional service is he going to give you? I'd rather tip the chef if the food was exceptional (in a restraunte too)
To me the rules are not strange at all. The Chef in a restaurant usually gets a good salary, a delivery boy might have a particular low salary because his employer expects him to be tipped.
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To me the rules are not strange at all. The Chef in a restaurant usually gets a good salary, a delivery boy might have a particular low salary because his employer expects him to be tipped.
It is complete weird, why do you expect a waiter or a delivery boy gets a low salary and therefore do you think you should give away some money because of your 150k income?

Wouldn`t it be crazy asking the staff where you had dinner, for copies of their working contract figuring out their tip.
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It is complete weird, why do you expect a waiter or a delivery boy gets a low salary and therefore do you think you should give away some money because of your 150k income?
Personally I am against tipping on principle but in a society where tipping for certain professions who deal with the public is customary your practically have no choice.

The classic example are the hairdressers as I mentioned in post No 20. First the price goes up because the hairdressers are getting a salary which they didn't before, but a short time later the various piggy banks with the name of their owners (which had been removed) appear again on the counter.

However, these tips are peanuts compared to the 'tips' the bankers get even if they have practially ruined their employers. Most of us - unless we have diplomatic status - finance those 'tips' through paying taxes.
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Just out of curiosity, what happens if you don't tip 15-20% in the states? Or not tip at all?
actually in some cities the tip is included, and also if you are a big table they add the tip as well, so you always better check.
believe me on my first trip to miami, lot's of waiters thanked me and blessed me, until i noticed that the tip was included, lol

but otherwise, they chase you outside the restaurant, i did it once because the waiter was awful, at the end i left with no tip... he followed me and i called the manager to complain about his service... and obviously never returned back there
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Old 24.02.2010, 22:43
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Some of you guys may not agree, but my minimum tip to a good service is 20% and maximum tip to a bad service is 5% It makes me happy when I tip,
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[QUOTE=marcopolo;716585] ..... but my minimum tip to a good service is 20% tip/QUOTE]

Then it's no wonder that people who only give 10 % don't always get good service.
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Re: Tipping delivery drivers?

for me, it's just like the appraisal and annual salary review in a lot of companies...

performance within expectation /job spec i.e. satisfied service =no tip

exceed expectation i.e. very good service = tips

'below expectation' i.e. lousy service = no tip (you won't get a salary decrease for below expectation in your appraisal

the only circumstance is that you know the owner or a frequent customer of the restaurant. I feel like obliging to give tips but still i pay 10% only.
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To me the rules are not strange at all. The Chef in a restaurant usually gets a good salary, a delivery boy might have a particular low salary because his employer expects him to be tipped.
The employer of a delivery boy canNOT expect him to be tipped ! Most people do NOT give tips.


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..... but my minimum tip to a good service is 20% tip/QUOTE]

Then it's no wonder that people who only give 10 % don't always get good service.
The tip also for a good service is 0%, if it was excellent I might simply add CHF 5.-- .


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The employer of a delivery boy canNOT expect him to be tipped !
He should not expect him to be tipped but many employers unfortunately do.

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Most people do NOT give tips.
All the people I know do give tips. I sometimes warn my friends against overtipping.

In principle, I agree with you. Everybody should be paid correctly for whatever work he does without depending on and expecting tips. In practice, that is not always the case particularly in times of unemployment.

And of course there are also cases where the system is abused.











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Re: Tipping delivery drivers?

you pay the bill for the goods (eg food), you tip the service that facilitates you getting the goods (eg the waiter/delivery boy/whatever) if the service is reasonable... if it would have been faster for me to walk in the kitchen and get the food myself or down to the cellar to get my wine, then no, no tip...
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He should not expect him to be tipped but many employers unfortunately do.
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All the people I know do give tips. I sometimes warn my friends against overtipping.
That there are employers who "expect" things not to be expected is the reason why people at UNIA are fairly busy !

People I know do NOT. Are you in banking ?
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Re: Tipping delivery drivers?

Reviving this thread because I am getting a fridge delivered and live on the second floor with no elevator. And there are actually almost four flights of stairs to get here.

Should I tip the delivery driver and if so, how much?
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Re: Tipping delivery drivers?

Why should you be paying? It’s not like they are minimum wage and depend on tips to live. Part of your purchase cost is for delivery.

In French a tip is pourboire, literally ‘for a drink’. If you feel really guilty give them 5 francs each. It likely will be unexpected and appreciated. And likely actually used for its original purpose.
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Why should you be paying? It’s not like they are minimum wage and depend on tips to live. Part of your purchase cost is for delivery.

In French a tip is pourboire, literally ‘for a drink’. If you feel really guilty give them 5 francs each. It likely will be unexpected and appreciated. And likely actually used for its original purpose.
As someone who grew up in New York, which is probably the most tip reliant city in the US, it was a hard habit to break for me. Japan is the sort of place where if you left tip money at the bar or on a table, it would likely result in the owner holding on to it for your next visit or a staff member running after you to return it... in Hiroshima and a few other cities, there's a rather good way to tip staff, that I always liked when getting extra special treatment - you tell the bartender/proprietor/staff member to enjoy a drink of their pleasure - they will chose to either drink with you or to have a water (or non alcohol beverage) and will just add the price of a beer to your bill.
Not really relevant here... but any way.
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Re: Tipping delivery drivers?

I personally normally don't tip. I ordered a pizza recently and it costed 19.50, if I would have eaten it in the restaurant it would have been around 12 Fr. This should cover the costs imo, but out of convinience you can give 20 if you pay cash, instead of counting out 19.50.
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Reviving this thread because I am getting a fridge delivered and live on the second floor with no elevator. And there are actually almost four flights of stairs to get here.

Should I tip the delivery driver and if so, how much?



Are you sure it's being delivered to your appartement and not a roadside delivery.....?
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Re: Tipping delivery drivers?

personally, I don't feel oblige to tip, but I usually do because it's a pleasure.
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Re: Tipping delivery drivers?

I sometimes round up the bill. I pay electronically, so it goes in the restaurant's budget and not in one particular pocket; I hope the owner will then fairly pay the staff.
I do it mainly when I'm happy and the restaurant is small or family owned, I also feel fine not to tip. I am against the US style of doing it all the time as a customer's duty because it gives me anxiety. I want to eat and relax, not feel directly responsible for the waiter's salary and life opportunities. I once had a bad meal at Applebee's and I did not tip, but I probably was supposed to do it anyways because the waiter is not the chef... I don't want to worry about these things.

Another exception to my rule are food riders. If someone rides a bike for 10' under the rain to bring me food while I watch TV then I feel that must have a price.

Delivery drivers? No tip, I assume they are fix employees with regular income, not like food riders.

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