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Re: Hypnosis, your opinion?

I went for hypnosis over a period of 4 months for Arachnophobia - still scared sh@tless ... My little one went for sleepwalking - only twice - worked a treat! Same therapist - must be something wrong with me
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Same as using it to manage all kind of pain or even to lose weight.
Have you checked out Hypnobabies...there is a self guided instruction of CD's available as a course for labor pain.
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Old 24.01.2011, 08:24
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Re: Hypnosis, your opinion?

i tried it once to quit smoking, it wasn't very successfully but then again i think i wasn't ready to quit smoking. as for labor, i can see how it could be helpful, but personally, i would look into meditation. it's self guided which is more practical and it definitely helped me with pain during labor, and actually with other issues. a couple of years ago i had tmj problems, i tried acupuncture and began meditation and a combo of the two really helped immensely.
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Re: Hypnosis, your opinion?

I have used hypnosis for pain control - had terrible head/neck pain from a car accident that required my skull to be fused to my neck. Went to a Ph.D. Psychologist who was the past President of the American Society of Clinical Hypnosis. It took multiple treatments (and a commitment to practive on my part) and I too fell asleep during the sessions which she recorded so I could listen to them at home when the pain was bad. It really did help. There are published studies in the medical "Peer-reviewed" literature about how hypnosis reduces pain. I don't believe it's hocus pocus.

I have a Ph.D. in Neuroscience and do drug development for a living so I know all to well about the hocus pocus of drugs we feed ourselves and how little we know about how they work (not to mention the damage they do). I went the hypnosis route so I could cut down the amount and type of pain drugs I had to take so I could get on with life.

It all depends on what your using it for, what protocol is used, the credentials of the practicioner (because like just like MDs there are quacks out there in every practice and industry ready to take your money), and how committed you are to practicing. That's what my experience has been anyway.
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Old 24.01.2011, 12:16
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Re: Hypnosis, your opinion?

Seems to be the topic of the moment. In my mind hypnosis and meditation are closely linked. Here is a link to Todays front page of the Guardian which has a link to easy steps to meditation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...lbeing-fitness

Didn't have time to try it, but it might be worth a look...
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Re: Hypnosis, your opinion?

meditation and hypnosis are linked ... but, at least for pain, hypnosis is superior in clinical studies (statistically speaking) and activates different pathways in the brain by PET (positron emission tomography) scans and fMRI (functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging) studies ... an interesting topic actually for science geeks
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meditation as relaxation are the opening state to other possibilities. Hypnosis is one of them.
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Re: Hypnosis, your opinion?

I've had it. Relaxing, but didn't deal with the problem.

Cognitive Behaviour Therapy probably better for dealing with issues of habit (e.g. weight loss, smoking, phobias). But maybe start with some counselling for the issues issues that underpin the bad habits.

Having said that, a good relationship with a counsellor is crucial for it to work and that is hard to develop when therapy here is so expensive.

I've found a yahoo support group on my 'issue', and that has given brilliant support.

Where are you based? I live in Vaud and know of a few English speaking therapists here.
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Old 26.01.2011, 22:52
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Re: Hypnosis, your opinion?

i do not think giving another human being control over your mind is ever a good idea.
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Old 26.01.2011, 22:54
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Re: Hypnosis, your opinion?

I've personally relied on a very crude version of self-hypnosis to get though the first cold days of the winter. Can usually deal with all sorts of cold after that.
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I went for hypnosis over a period of 4 months for Arachnophobia - still scared sh@tless ... My little one went for sleepwalking - only twice - worked a treat! Same therapist - must be something wrong with me
As a trained hypnotherapist all I can say someone was ripping you off. In only the most extreme cases would I take more than one hour over any Phobia.
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i do not think giving another human being control over your mind is ever a good idea.
Lakeside - you have a misconception regarding hypnosis. You never give control over your mind to the hypnotist, he or she only helps you access your unconscious and then helps you work with behaviours that you want to change. I could never make anybody change anything that they did not want to - even with the 'tricks' like forgetting the number 7 it is only if somebody wants to play will it happen.
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As a trained hypnotherapist all I can say someone was ripping you off. In only the most extreme cases would I take more than one hour over any Phobia.
That was your first post. Would you like to write an introduction for yourself please? Are you practising in Zurich?
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Re: Hypnosis, your opinion?



Nil, watch this!!!
it's the first part of a 2 part video(1/2)
2/2 is beside it..
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Old 28.02.2012, 21:05
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Re: Hypnosis, your opinion?

Not for me I must say. And yet I am an adept of Shiatsu and acupuncture.
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Old 28.02.2012, 21:14
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Lakeside - you have a misconception regarding hypnosis. You never give control over your mind to the hypnotist, he or she only helps you access your unconscious and then helps you work with behaviours that you want to change. I could never make anybody change anything that they did not want to - even with the 'tricks' like forgetting the number 7 it is only if somebody wants to play will it happen.
It happened to me the other way around - I wanted to be hypnotized but it didn't work...

When I was about 16, I went to a hypnotist show at the local school, where about 15 or so participants were selected at random, myself included. The hypnotist performed a sort of group hypnosis and was able to get (seemingly) everyone to do some pretty basic, but amusing tricks (reacting to different movie genres, believing the person next to you reeked of dog poo, and so on). Due to a weird sense of mob mentality, I too was responding to all of the demands, though I felt a bit ashamed to do so, much more so anyway than the rest of the kids.

It wasn't until the hypnotist pulled his next stunt where we were made to not be able to say our first names. He started with the first 7 or 8 kids and, lo and behold, none of them were able to spit it out. In the meantime, I was sitting in my chair, waiting for my turn and silently whispering my first name to myself with ease. I thought maybe it'd be different when he asked me, maybe it had to do with his voice. Sure enough, "Hello, what's your name, son?" was responded with a loud and defiant "M. Ploymi" (real name concealed :P).

It seems as though I was never hypnotized all along. Yet somehow I managed to overcome my stagefright by dancing, singing and pretending to act out Shakespeare in front of an audience of about 100 people I knew.

My friend, on the other hand, came out of it in complete disbelief that he had been hypnotized, although he was probably one of the funniest on stage.

Ah, memories...
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Nil, watch this!!!
it's the first part of a 2 part video(1/2)
2/2 is beside it..
Tanks for this John. Whilst I do love Penn and Teller, in this case they are the ones who are Bulls***ting as they do not really seem to examine the evidence for and against hypnotism but start from a position of no it does not work and then show some pretty poor examples to back up their case. There is a huge amount of scientific study now on the benefits of hypnosis (i.e. by University researchers). For IBS, for instance, hypnosis is used widely and successfully and is becoming an accepted treatment. Many smokers find this is the only way they have successfully stopped smoking (followed up for a period of two years). Hypnosis is all about a person accessing their own unconscious and changing behaviours themselves not the hypnotist controlling the person.
If hypnosis is just Bulls***t is it damm good Bulls***t!!
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Hypnosis is all about a person accessing their own unconscious and changing behaviours themselves not the hypnotist controlling the person.
If hypnosis is just Bulls***t is it damm good Bulls***t!!
Right, hypnotism will not work if the person doesn't want it to.

Take a smoker. They want to quit, but can't, the urges are more powerful than the desire to quit. So they see a hypnotist. They pay a sum of money, and subject themselves to a procedure, while their friends are giggling and skeptical at home.

Now- if it doesn't work, you are not only too weak of a human to quit smoking, you are also a pigeon who's had their money taken by a charlatan.

So, you buck up and don't smoke. Now you've not only quit smoking, but validated the money you spent and have the satisfaction of proving the skeptics wrong. Maybe you start again in a year (as happened elsewhere in this thread), 'it still worked! see, it worked for a year!'.

It's just psychology. Nobody wants to be scammed. One of the hypnotists in the PnT show sent a hypnotism CD to a client to help his penis grow. And wow- after some time, it grew an inch! Of course it did. He could either convince himself that he had been an idiot, or that his johnson got bigger; easy choice.

I'm certain there are people who, unlike the penis enlargement guy, honestly do improve their quality of life through hypnosis, but I'm am entirely unconvinced that it is the hypnosis that does it. It may act as a crutch that allows them to allow themselves to do something they otherwise wouldn't, or the sessions might simply be a surrogate for meditation.
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Re: Hypnosis, your opinion?

a to the men, mudski. i went to a hypnotist long ago to quit smoking, fat chance it would work anyway as the hypnotist had weird pictures of himself in 1976 with girls in short shorts rollerskating and there was no way in haiti i was gonna be outta my head around that guy... if it's smoking that is the problem, then quitting will happen when you are ready and hypnosis may help for some but it's only a form of meditating guided by another, even better if you take a moment from your life to stop the merry go round of runrunrun and take a moment not to smoke just when you want to take a moment to smoke. meditation is way cheaper and more self sufficient and i think that it is a balance of realizing that you can do what you wanna do when you want to do it, rather than being convinced that others are better skilled to do it for you than you are.
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Hi Nil! You may want to contact Hugh under free hypnosis sessions. As a psychologist I can tell you that hypnosis done by a professional you can trust, is a great way to get rid of bad habits and change your old patterns because it works with your subconscious mind.
There is a false concept that a hypnosis therapist will "control" your mind but in reality your subconscious will always protect you, that means that you will never go against your morals.
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Hello,

I am interested of your opinion on hypnosis used to get rid of bad habits, change attitude, heal phobia, lose weight, etc.

Anyone has experience to share with us?
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