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Re: Cute kids = Spoiled

I think what we also have to bear in mind and keep at the forefront, is that Nil is pregnant and emotional and the smallest word or phrase can feel like a personal slate.

Gentle ladies, please. Nil is a great mummy, I have seen her and her child is not spoilt and Nil is not neurotic or suffering with any ideas of grandeur that "princess" is any better than any of our kids. (obviously no child can be as wonderful as "munchkin" )

Surely us mummies can remember how sensitive and worried we were about our abilities and other's perceptions of us when we were preggers xx
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I think what we also have to bear in mind and keep at the forefront, is that Nil is pregnant and emotional and the smallest word or phrase can feel like a personal slate.

Gentle ladies, please. Nil is a great mummy, I have seen her and her child is not spoilt and Nil is not neurotic or suffering with any ideas of grandeur that "princess" is any better than any of our kids. (obviously no child can be as wonderful as "munchkin" )

Surely us mummies can remember how sensitive and worried we were about our abilities and other's perceptions of us when we were preggers xx
Yes and no, I think she doesn't like the fact that I stated the Little Princess* is cute.

I wouldn't come up with it if it wasn't an issue with the daycare. But when you ask them to not let her get away with bad behaviour and their answers are : ''But she is sooooo cute'', it doesn't serve her any good and doesn't help me to teach her to behave well.

I am not emotional because of the pregnancy (which is of course a very good reason) but because of some enjoying being nasty.
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Yes and no, I think she doesn't like the fact that I stated the Little Princess* is cute.

I wouldn't come up with it if it wasn't an issue with the daycare. But when you ask them to not let her get away with bad behaviour and their answers are : ''But she is sooooo cute'', it doesn't serve her any good and doesn't help me to teach her to behave well.

I am not emotional because of the pregnancy (which is of course a very good reason) but because of some enjoying being nasty.
Understand but trying to get people to be a bit less harsh x
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Yes and no, I think she doesn't like the fact that I stated the Little Princess* is cute.

I wouldn't come up with it if it wasn't an issue with the daycare. But when you ask them to not let her get away with bad behaviour and their answers are : ''But she is sooooo cute'', it doesn't serve her any good and doesn't help me to teach her to behave well.

I am not emotional because of the pregnancy (which is of course a very good reason) but because of some enjoying being nasty.
Bull. People just sometimes disagree. Be pro choice you and let me have an opinion different than yours, n-kay?

Btw, it would bug me too, if educatrices had a completely opposing discipline rules, no matter of their reasoning. Maybe you should just focus on that. But I guess it depends what "crimes" they let her get away with.
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Kids, eh?

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Woah woah! Easy ladies...we dont want to give the men a unnecessary hard-on with all this cat-fighting now, do we?

Jell-O anyone?

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Bull. People just sometimes disagree. Be pro choice you and let me have an opinion different than yours, n-kay?

Btw, it would bug me too, if educatrices had a completely opposing discipline rules, no matter of their reasoning. Maybe you should just focus on that. But I guess it depends what "crimes" they let her get away with.
Did you read the 2 articles I put? The first one doesn't say much different that what everybody knows but the second one gives a good view of what is going on in school.

That is the problem, a two years old crime isn't such a big crime, but if no ones stop it, somehow, small 2 years old crime will become a primary school one, and yada, yada. If we ignore it today, when it is the time to stop ignoring it?
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Woah woah! Easy ladies...we dont want to give the men a unnecessary hard-on with all this cat-fighting now, do we?

Jell-O anyone?

Damn, I want those bikinis!
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Did you read the 2 articles I put? The first one doesn't say much different that what everybody knows but the second one gives a good view of what is going on in school.

That is the problem, a two years old crime isn't such a big crime, but if no ones stop it, somehow, small 2 years old crime will become a primary school one, and yada, yada. If we ignore it today, when it is the time to stop ignoring it?
Ah, ok. I think you are over doing it. I can see the reasoning, sure, but I am not sure if that would be what is really conditioning your kiddo for life. She is not even 2. You know, the same way I didn't believe the whole "don't have your kid wear pink" bull, or else she will turn into some fluffeh ball for the rest of her life and will collect Barbies while she is an old spinster dressed in pink princess clothes. Of course when your child is older and there really is a reason to tone down the cheer for her not to feed her ego, I would say soon it is a good time to gently start showing her other people, teach her be self-less (like, sharing her first bite with your, for example, or sharing candy, toys, etc no hurting anyone, stuff like that.). Good luck, though, if you are so eager to do it immediately now, as you seem to me. They are in a very egocentric phase right around this point, she will soon be out of it, but they do need to go through this. So, let her have it. And take a loads of pics.
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Ladies please.
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Yes, there are fathers present. More bikinis please.
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Re: Cute kids = Spoiled

Ok. These are your children you are talking about. What happened to unconditional love? spoilt, ugly or what ever else. They are children, your babies.
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Ok. These are your children you are talking about. What happened to unconditional love? spoilt, ugly or what ever else. They are children, your babies.
I love my kid unconditionally, even though she is the cutest and best dressed in her creche, and could write her name at 2 1/2, and makes the sweetest soap beards in her bubble bath. Did I mention she's very smart and very cute? Everyone thinks so.
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Yeah but for the Plastic Tities it is this direction!
That's a very unappetizing thread...

While I am strict and we are lucky to have the closest play buddie raised the same way, I don't think there is a need to over do it. I remember having the same sentiments when we are debating cry-it-out with fellow moms. They are only so little for such a short time. Let's let others admire our babes when they are still babes..I think we can make little steps, implement it logically and sensibly, I wouldn't go overboard with some authoritarian attitude or trying to change the adoration some teacher has. If the teacher is lazy, then yes, but it might make her feel bad, too, if it is just pedantic. Unless she is really ignoring my parenting ways, or going directly against it (hitting others, snatching toys, pushing, eating other kids stuff, having some major fits, throwing food, etc). Just the fact something gets diagnosed super early does not mean people should immediately over react and organize some kind of super campaign to squish the kiddo who just happens to go through a naturally egotistic process. It's good to be aware, though, yeah.
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Ah, ok. I think you are over doing it. I can see the reasoning, sure, but I am not sure if that would be what is really conditioning your kiddo for life. She is not even 2. You know, the same way I didn't believe the whole "don't have your kid wear pink" bull, or else she will turn into some fluffeh ball for the rest of her life and will collect Barbies while she is an old spinster dressed in pink princess clothes. Of course when your child is older and there really is a reason to tone down the cheer for her not to feed her ego, I would say soon it is a good time to gently start showing her other people, teach her be self-less (like, sharing her first bite with your, for example, or sharing candy, toys, etc no hurting anyone, stuff like that.). Good luck, though, if you are so eager to do it immediately now, as you seem to me. They are in a very egocentric phase right around this point, she will soon be out of it, but they do need to go through this. So, let her have it. And take a loads of pics.
She is 2 1/2 years old. She is very bossy and yes, like every toddler she will try everything to get what she wants. BUT her teachers did give her way too much and they have now to deal with some problems that are directly connected to them spoiling her. I told them many times before but their answer were always the same: She is soooo cute! Now, the cute one is getting naughty. Especially with a certain teacher (the one who spoiled her the most). She does expect now that everyone act with her the way this teacher does.

This is why I believe that they are treating her differently because she is soooo cute. They are the one who tell me that!
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I love my kid unconditionally, even though she is the cutest and best dressed in her creche, and could write her name at 2 1/2, and makes the sweetest soap beards in her bubble bath. Did I mention she's very smart and very cute? Everyone thinks so.
You forgot the 3 languages! ...and the fact she pre-cuts my veggies when we cook.
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Is it creche? Or a playgroup...I think playgroup will just babysit. I find our creche very independent, common sense strict, it's really working out well. I think you just have to insist, if you know exactly what they do that is wrong. They might also think you are way too strict with your child and are trying to compensate a bit? The so cute might be just a cop out. (although I am sure your kiddo is cute). They don't realize you are thinking way ahead since you are expecting another handful arriving soon..

The thing is, the minute your child goes to another collective, it will have another sets of rules and authorities. I am not sure if it is a good think to try to impose your discipline, although some common sense should be there. Just tell them you will have to take your kiddo out if they don't toughen up. But I would think twice, if it is not a matter of life and death, like really serious issues, maybe you are just over thinking it. Me thinks. Preggo brain, really. Just be happy you get a minute for yourself. Kids are smart, they know mom's got one way to do things, others have another way. They differentiate very early. Smart monkeys. All kids hear all the time they are beautiful and cute and all. Just wait till she is prancing in front of the mirror with your lipstick on all over her face and your heels on.
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I am gonna have nightmares now...
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