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Old 01.02.2011, 19:14
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A similar thing happened to me with alcohol tolerance. I've lost quite a bit of weight since last year and it took a few parties to realize that I can't drink like I used to when I weighed ~25kg more and the alcohol had fat cells to play around in.
I hear you on that too .

I am just not the Apres ski instructor that I use to be.
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Old 01.02.2011, 19:17
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Re: Who's starting a diet with me?

Last year I lost 20 kilos. Had to as I was type 2 diabetic with some high blood pressure. Wanted to stop the medications as they were not helping me much just allowing me to stay with what I was eating.

I stopped refined carbs and sugar. I do no eat any dairy as I am lactose intollerant.

Exercise is important but what you eat is even more important.

Last but not least is the state of mind. Many people who have anxiety have weight problems so calming is important.

I would recommend a book called the China Stufy. Quite revealing
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Last year I lost 20 kilos. Had to as I was type 2 diabetic with some high blood pressure. Wanted to stop the medications as they were not helping me much just allowing me to stay with what I was eating.
Kudos on your weight loss!
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Old 01.02.2011, 19:48
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Besides all that, there are people like me with a slow metabolism, with a lazy pancreas and all that insulin excess goes ... wherever ... everywhere.

Besides my cheese and chocolate period I could gain weight even from air. All the feminine side of my family - mother, grandmothers are overweighted ...
I believe you.

Air has way too much cholesterol for my liking too. Did you really put on weight by eating cheese and choclate or was it all air intake related?

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Old 01.02.2011, 20:33
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Re: Who's starting a diet with me?

"Running" on a thursday (like one does ) burns between 600-700 calories for me. Then 1 beer (pint) = 250 calories. So 2 beers and net result = 0. Coke isn't better. Maybe we could suggest a circle done with water? How would that go down?
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Old 01.02.2011, 21:14
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Re: Who's starting a diet with me?

Hi,

I can recommend the GI diet or similar - you eat 3 meals a day and 3 snacks per day consisting of foods where the carbs are slowly absorbed. This is perhaps easier than counting calories etc and it does work.

The other thing is to set yourself targets and rewards - e.g. treat yourself to a spa visit each time you lose 5 kilos.

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Old 01.02.2011, 21:58
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Re: Who's starting a diet with me?

Coke down-down sounds interesting. Makes you sneeze though.

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"Running" on a thursday (like one does ) burns between 600-700 calories for me. Then 1 beer (pint) = 250 calories. So 2 beers and net result = 0. Coke isn't better. Maybe we could suggest a circle done with water? How would that go down?
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Kudos on your weight loss!
Thanks. Was not looking for kudos but much appreciated.

Still reading this China Study book can not recommend highly enough this well researched book. Many of the foods we are eating are making us sick and many of the recommended diets are also not very good

Much of it is common sense.
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Old 03.02.2011, 10:24
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Re: Who's starting a diet with me?

Here is an interesting post (in another blog, see link) - has to do with the economics of gym memebrship or, as FT.com puts it the "Gym membership and the economics of Guilt".
Basically - would you prefer to pay $40/mth or $20/month, with a $15 penalty for each week you fail to show up?

Articles here:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...f-guilt/70661/

http://nudges.org/2011/02/02/more-be...m-memberships/



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Old 03.02.2011, 12:32
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Re: Who's starting a diet with me?

It's all to do with calories in v. calories out.

1) Diets don't work - your clever body just compensates for the change.

2) Muscle burns calories.

3) Alcohol turns to sugar.

4) Your heart should race at least once a day.

Using the above I lost 10kgs 5 years ago - and kept it off.

In plain language this means:

1) Build muscles in a gym (you'll feel more confident, back aches will go and sports like skiing won't kill you).

2) Only booze at the weekends.

3) Walk briskly for 45 minutes the days you don't go to the gym.

4) Eat whatever you want - BUT only one portion.
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Re: Who's starting a diet with me?

Also, try to avoid MSG at all costs - there is a certain amount of controversy surrounding it; some people claim that it is completely safe (even though it is banned in many countries).

Both my mother and I are allergic to it and suffer headaches and serious fluid retention after ingesting it. It is added to many highly flavoured foods, such as crisps, and Knorr stock cubes used to list it as their No. 1 ingredient! I always check the list of ingredients carefully, yet these days certain canny manufacturers disguise it under the umbrella term of 'flavourings'. However, I can always tell when I have inadvertently eaten it as the next day I wake up with swollen eyelids and fingers and a horrible vague headache.
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Old 03.02.2011, 12:54
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Re: Who's starting a diet with me?

Hey AppleRed, why don't you join a diet forum? Otherwise, I would do the thang with you, but you would need to take me to dinner first, be a really hot guy and ummm that's it.
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Old 03.02.2011, 13:21
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Also, try to avoid MSG at all costs - there is a certain amount of controversy surrounding it; some people claim that it is completely safe (even though it is banned in many countries).
This is absolutely true. MSG is evil, usually as geshmack something, flavor enhancer, aka 621. Since it is sodium, you tank up on water, there is a huge water retention. I was always supper thirsty after take away pizza when it wasn't too salty even, then it hit me I could so taste the MSG in the pizza sauce. It's everywhere here, from salad dressing, to pizza dough, sauces, stews, canned veggies and dips, cream cheese spreads, Migros bufets...

Sweeteners aren't too good either, in gum that dieters often chew on to keep the jaws busy, they play with Gl. index and trick your body to think you are eating but since you are not the craving and hunger hits even more in a little while, it feeds the sugar craving in some (read me, hahaha). What also helps is putting the whole family on healthy foods, discard little juice boxes, little packs of chips for kids, cookies, candy bars, gummi bears. If one wants to have them for kids, it's nicer to make one's own litte finger foods, etc.

Get rid of the trick drinks one has instead of munching, it's frequent people have coffee instead of a snack to "diet", large late with full fat milk is a caloric bomb though. So is white tea, sugary drinks, really sweet fruits, a handful of nuts isn't innocent either (although I have that for bfast with white yoghurt and a tiny bit of honey as a treat). And musli bars are killers, with the sugar glue and candied oats. Herb teas are the best, green tea especially. And, apparently drinking black coffee and tea is better for speeding things up a bit metab. wise, but maybe I just retain this bit of info since I can't really live without it.

A friend just lost 8kilos over a few weeks and not doing anything marathon style, just a glass of hot lemon water in the morning, poridge, fruit for snack am and pm, and, most of all, she gave herself and her 4yr old same size lunch and diner portions, nothing to eat after 6pm dinnner. It's hardcore at the beginning, but apparently super efficient.
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Re: Who's starting a diet with me?

Great advice AbFab- calories are indeed so important, but for some of us, fast carbs that turn to sugar if also a real factor, and a low GI diet (glycemic index) is important. It's not about eating sugary things (well, it does too) but about eating white flour, starchy rice and potatoes (basmati and new pots are OK, but not sticky rice or old potatoes- as they contain big amounts of starch- which quickly turn to sugar in the body- if you are insulin resistant and cannot absorb the sugar, it will turn to fat very quickly).
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Since I came in Switzerland I gained 10 kilos ... looks like I love too much cheese and chocolate ... I am actually a cheese freak, I just love it.

Now I think it's about the time to do something with my extra kilos and I think it will work better with company for the challenge and support.

Who want's to start a diet with me? I am thinking to start with a dissociate eating plan for a week and then starting to eat normal but healthy.

Did you try some eating plans that were successful? Of course combined with more sports.

I'll join you! I recently joined up on sparkpeople.com which is a great web community for those of us that need to lose weight/get fit/be more healthy...

I'm counting calories and doing a minimum of 30 minutes exercise daily!

Let's do this!
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Re: Who's starting a diet with me?

I'd also recommend reading Linda Bacon's "Health at Every Size". Why attempts to loose weight often don't work for people and their consequences. Sound advice on how to improve one's health no matter what you weigh.

Of course, it's very anti-"diet". At the same time it's well researched and sensible.
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Re: Who's starting a diet with me?

Hey hey, me too. I am here for 3 years and gain 10 Kg. Since 3 weeks I start my (serious) diet program with my husband and I lose 3 kgs.
I am using WII EA Sport active II 3 times a week and control the food. We only eat the wholewheat bread, rice, pasta in the morning with fruit and Soy milk. Lunch and dinner only vegetable and fishes or seafood or tofu, fruit (not sweet) in the afternoon (apple, banana, Melon, water melon, papaya, dragon fruit). Drink water 2 litre/day. If you wanna chat please do not hesitate to email me
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Old 13.02.2011, 11:14
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That's true but when you want to start to loose weight is indicated to have a cure for detoxifying the body at first.
Are you missing a liver and other vital organs? Eep...
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Translation: people who peddle their diets as "easy" solutions say that you need to do it with a detox diet (usually involving their products).

You'll lose a few kilos and gain the confidence to continue losing more, supposedly. What you're actually doing by going on a low-calorie diet is forcing your body to go into deprivation mode and forcing it eat away at not only fat, but also solid tissue and muscle.

You may be losing weight, but you're not getting the benefits you'd be getting by keeping your body decently (not excessively) nourished and by exercising, which has more benefits than just burning away calories - it speeds up your metabolism, it burns fat, it makes you sweat (thus lose toxins and water retention) and it builds muscle.

So as Carlos said, eat less and move more. And it was said even better in another thread a while back, can't remember by whom, but it needs to be copyrighted as a weight-loss plan name: "Just cut the crap and do the exercise."
Not quite. Whilst I totally agree with you from an idealistic, 'sensible' approach, there's a reason doctors use a VLCD for some cases. A lot of people need to experience an initial, rapid loss to motivate them to stick to a long-term lifestyle plan. I don't like saying it but the end justifies the means for some people. Without this instant gratification, they won't stick to the plan later.

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Re: Who's starting a diet with me?

Oh, and on the topic of books, it's probably a case of trial-and-error to find one that both motivates you to adopt a healthier lifestyle and fits your needs. So have fun.

I'm not generally one to recommend books for this stuff, but 'Intuitive Eating' is a really solid one.
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