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Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

So after days of researching for the best in-line duo stroller my choices came down to:

Baby Jogger City Select- Seamed great but many reviews said it handled like a truck and not good for taller kids (me and my wife are tall, and so is my son for his age) No good.

Phil & Teds (Explorer or Hammerhead) - Second seat seems second class to me, plus I read many reviews saying it was cheaply made (tires popping, plastic breaking) and their customer service was god awful. Plus I am afraid that the 2nd class child will hit the bottom when going over uneven terrain or curbs. That and everyone and their mother has one here. Boring.

Britax B-Ready Duo - This one looked promising except for the wheels, not very off road friendly. I thought I could take this to my cousins mechanic shop and modify it by putting on some better wheels. ( a bit extreme I know, but I was willing to do it)

So just when I thought that I was going to buy the britax and have it custom chopped (true so-cal style). Low and behold a light from heaven came down, or I entered the wrong search one of the two. The Mountain Buggy +one found its way onto my computer screen. PERFECT! Exactly what I was looking for. An in-line duo that I can go hiking with. Only problem is there are no reviews yet as it will not be released until March. So my question is does anyone have any of the three listed above or a Mountain Buggy? What are the pros and cons of your stoller living in Zurich / CH?
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

what about bugaboo donkey
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what about bugaboo donkey
Too wide, its a side by side and I want an in-line that way I can still get inside shops and navigate through Zurich.
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

I have one of the first double buggies (side by side) put out by moutain buggy as well as a single mountain buggy. I absolutely swear by the durablity of them as well as the comfort. With having 4 kids close together they have all been invaluable, particularly the fact that they can lie flat for new borns/young babies. Looking at the picutre for the +1 I wonder if it would do this. If you have a young children who would need to sleep in it this is the one thing I would look into.
Our single buggy is 7 years old and is on the 4th child and still looks new. The swivel wheel is brilliant for negotiation your way throught the crowds, shops etc. The canvas is easy to take off to wash. They are also easy to collapse - all you need to do is lift a lever on either side, no removing of pieces.
The only issue I have had is getting a space on the train for me to sit while the baby is sleeping. As we take the train infrequently it hasn't been too much of a problem though.
Good luck with your search.

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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

I've no idea whether this Thread is any help but it might have a tip or two in it.
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Old 17.02.2011, 17:19
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I have one of the first double buggies (side by side) put out by moutain buggy as well as a single mountain buggy. I absolutely swear by the durablity of them as well as the comfort. With having 4 kids close together they have all been invaluable, particularly the fact that they can lie flat for new borns/young babies. Looking at the picutre for the +1 I wonder if it would do this. If you have a young children who would need to sleep in it this is the one thing I would look into.
Our single buggy is 7 years old and is on the 4th child and still looks new. The swivel wheel is brilliant for negotiation your way throught the crowds, shops etc. The canvas is easy to take off to wash. They are also easy to collapse - all you need to do is lift a lever on either side, no removing of pieces.
The only issue I have had is getting a space on the train for me to sit while the baby is sleeping. As we take the train infrequently it hasn't been too much of a problem though.
Good luck with your search.
Not very many details out on the +one as of yet but they claim it can carry an infant and toddler at the same time. How this works looking at the pics I have no idea.

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Thanks for the link. I checked it out and its mostly regarding side by side doubles. I am not even considering those. Very unpractical in Switzerland.
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

We run a valco which looks very similar to the mountain buggy, at work, and it's the preferred pram - ours is a triple - side by side with a toddler seat up the front, and the runs really great on the large air-filled tyres...

I'm not a fan of the models where the baby slides in the back - where they are so low to the ground and can't really see anything - but plenty of the parents at work seem to go for them - and for short trips I'm sure they are adequate.

As a mum of two children who were two years apart, by the time the second child came along the first one was quite capable of walking a lot, and I also used a pouch for the bubs, and to be honest they were rarely both in the pram. So I'd never buy a big side-by-side or front-back model, because I'm sure I'd end up pushing it around with only one child in there most of the time.

Have you also considered just getting a buggy-board and using your single pram ? With that plus a pouch you have a few options, and soon enough the bigger child will be walking a lot of the way themselves...

I can also highly recommend online grocery shopping - there was a time for about 2 years where I *never* took my kids to the supermarket/shopping centre - they were taken once a week with grandma for a 'special treat' and the rest of the time we shopped without them - it was just not worth the hassle...
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We run a valco which looks very similar to the mountain buggy, at work, and it's the preferred pram - ours is a triple - side by side with a toddler seat up the front, and the runs really great on the large air-filled tyres...

I'm not a fan of the models where the baby slides in the back - where they are so low to the ground and can't really see anything - but plenty of the parents at work seem to go for them - and for short trips I'm sure they are adequate.

As a mum of two children who were two years apart, by the time the second child came along the first one was quite capable of walking a lot, and I also used a pouch for the bubs, and to be honest they were rarely both in the pram. So I'd never buy a big side-by-side or front-back model, because I'm sure I'd end up pushing it around with only one child in there most of the time.

Have you also considered just getting a buggy-board and using your single pram ? With that plus a pouch you have a few options, and soon enough the bigger child will be walking a lot of the way themselves...

I can also highly recommend online grocery shopping - there was a time for about 2 years where I *never* took my kids to the supermarket/shopping centre - they were taken once a week with grandma for a 'special treat' and the rest of the time we shopped without them - it was just not worth the hassle...

I already have a TFK joggster single which is like the Valco and mountain buggy. I am looking for an in-line double for when I have to watch my nephew and son together (and for when we have our second child) Which means I will need a double AND a buggy-board. For short trips a double is not necessary but on a nice day I like to go for a hike and even little kids get tired and will need to rest. Plus trying to push one around and keep track of another running around everywhere in a crowded situation is something I am trying to avoid here
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

I am a Maternity Nanny and I really like the Baby Jogger Summit 360. My last client has that one and I was 120% pleased. That was the single version but you can also get it as a double one. I did lots of walks in the forest, in the city and in my point of view it is the best on the market. It is so easy to fold and very stable. I am very tall and it fits me perfectly.
Here the link: http://www.babyjogger.com/summit_xc_dbl_dtl.aspx
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

Just missed to say that my friend has got the Jane double stroller and is very pleased.
Here the link:
http://www.johnstonprams.co.uk/dynam...item=5204X-J40
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

We have a Phil & Ted's Vibe for our two (3 years and 6 months). The Vibe has a brake on the handle whereas some of the other versions have a foot brake which seemed incredibly hard to operate. It was very stiff and awkward.

Our baby now sits in the main buggy seat and our 3 year old uses the rear seat only as required, and she thinks its pretty funny to be in the back!

We have had no problem with Phil and Teds Customer Service, in fact, we recently had our stroller written off by Easy Jet and within 6 hours of a mail to P&T's they gave us details of where to obtain a new frame. I was quite happy with that.

The only problem we have had with the buggy is the front wheel. It has a habit of moving to a 180 degree angle to the buggy if you stop at a road crossing for example and pull the buggy slightly backwards (hope that makes sense!) anyway, when that happens, you run the risk of pushing the full weight of the buggy over the top of the front wheel and bending it. We did this with the first frame, but when we took the broken one to replace, I got a free front wheel as well! It appears they know of the problem and will replace free of charge if a problem appears.

All in all though a great buggy, I'm quite happy with it so far.
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

We have an old style terrain mountain buggy and it is a wonderful thing! I really think you cannot go wrong with a mountain buggy and I am told that the resale value is very high (you can use that as justification for the price!) but please do not ask me to part with mine ... just yet!

The only down side is my version is not very compact when folded (ahem! I say "folded" but you'd be forgiven for thinking that all I had done was simply lower it a little .... it really is a case of having to buy a bigger car just to fit the buggy in) but luckily we are here in Switzerland and the buggy hardly ever gets a ride in the car.
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

The weight and width of those double strollers is shocking. Add 2 kids, that's 45kgs you are soon pushing around. I'd be taking that up stairs to get into the house and in and out of the car too, not to mention how much boot space they take up.

I had to travel a lot during nap time when my second was a small baby, needing to see specialists in other cities. I wouldn't have got a big pram inside the train in the pram area - where you fold up the seat and my son and I could sit down, and a bigger pram wouldn't have got in the lift at the doctor's practice. I had a big TFK before and it was long and heavy.

I took a carrier and swapped the kids around when the older one needed to nap. When the older one was tired or the area was crowded he went on the buggy board.

On holidays or out walking all day, both kids still manage to fit in a single lightweight buggy. My son sits in front of his sister and puts his feet on the foot rest. Who needs a double pram, just pile 'em on
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

We have the baby jogger city select but just one kid! We liked it for a single buggy it had the best of the mountain buggy and bugaboo combined. However since using it I have found it really a bit bulky for a single buggy around the shops, it's a bit too long at the front. But apart from that I like it and I think it's a great solution for a double buggy and who knows we may one day use it as a double!
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We run a valco which looks very similar to the mountain buggy, at work, and it's the preferred pram - ours is a triple - side by side with a toddler seat up the front, and the runs really great on the large air-filled tyres.
Hey Swisspea - I am glad to hear you like my valco! I loved it, so glad it is in good use!
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

In-line double didn't work for us because both didn't want to be the one in the back or front. Big fights while demoing so we went with the side-by-side. Width is not a problem for CityMini, TFK, Urban Jungle, but some other brands are wider. Would fit into most elevators and most Migros/coop checkout especially the handicap lanes. Main problem is to get them into trams or trains, but this has more to do with the weight than width, so you would have the same problem with the inline version.

TFK is super popular here although I don't understand why as it is so heavy and bulky. So we sold it, good thing we got most of our money back as the second hand value is very good given the popularity.

Baby jogger is the best in terms of weight and ease of use. In one move it folds up and you can lift it into your car boot. Fantastic. But for heavier kids, I agree the City Mini doesn't manouvre very well

Urban Jungle is the best for the outdoorsy type. Heavy though.

Also looked at Easy Walker which is slightly shorter than the Urban Jungle, but overall the Urban Jungle is better.

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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

We had both - a Jane front & back and a TFK side-by-side. The latter's for sale if you're interested

The side-by-side was fine, and indeed being long and slim was OK for town, but it was on a single wheel at the front that made going up steps a pain, not to mention getting on and off trams... The other issue with the longer versions was that sometimes "things" weren't deep enough to accommodate it, e.g. lifts, trams (if too many other people there), buses and, importantly, the car boot.

The TFK was much more stable in that respect, and as long as it fits in a doorway (which it does), it was surprisingly easy to move around town.
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

Thanks for all the replies as I was looking for what works and what doesnt in Switzerland. We dont have a car so weight will not be an issue except for stairs. (I wonder how handicap people in wheel chairs get around here)
Our TFK is a bit heavy compaired to my sisters Mclarean but it rides like a cadillac where the Mclarean rides like a yugo. I am going to wait until the Mountain Buggy releases the +one, and since we are going to the States in May I will buy it there and save a few hundered francs. The abiltiy to go off road is the most important factor for me and nothing is better than a mountain buggy, except for maybe a Bob.
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

Have you heard a release date for the Plus One? I hope to purchase one here in the states before we make our move to Switzerland in May.
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Re: Stroller/pram/buggy for two kids

I emailed Mountain Buggy in the US about the release date 2 weeks ago and they were unable to provide me any timeline. maybe someone has heard something else?
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