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Measles outbreak in Geneva

Just got a health notification via hubby's work travel people, which says:

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On Feb. 22, public health officials in Geneva warned of a sudden increase in measles infections in the city. Since the beginning of 2011, authorities have reported at least 26 measles cases, including 20 since late January. Experts are concerned that the outbreak could intensify once schools resume classes in March. "

Something to keep an eye out for if you're in the area and not sure of your vaccination status.
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Old 23.02.2011, 17:25
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You have the anti-vaccination lobby to thank for that.
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Old 23.02.2011, 17:39
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Re: Measles outbreak in Geneva

Well, good to know we took measles vac.

I am vexed, though, as I have read the news about Prevenar (last Hebdo here), irks me to no end that vac is on the black list now. So is the h5n1 vac, as per same article.
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Old 23.02.2011, 17:42
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You have the anti-vaccination lobby to thank for that.
Let's give them a hand! (Make sure to wash hands after)

I wonder how they spin this.
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So is the h5n1 vac, as per same article.
The H5N1 vaccine alone is redundant now, as the strain is included in the seasonal flu vaccine.
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Old 23.02.2011, 17:53
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The H5N1 vaccine alone is redundant now, as the strain is included in the seasonal flu vaccine.
I know, Hebdo listed meds on a "black list" though, just recently, as dangerous ones. I have to get a copy of that issue. Just saw this vax and Prevenar on the list, made me grind my teeth.
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Re: Measles outbreak in Geneva

I am shitting in my pants now.... I am not immune to it. Doctor told me it was pretty rare the risk to be infected here in Switzerland.

I got my shot after the first pregnancy and apparently my body is still not immune to it...
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I am shitting in my pants now.... I am not immune to it. Doctor told me it was pretty rare the risk to be infected here in Switzerland.

I got my shot after the first pregnancy and apparently my body is still not immune to it...
Hey, when I was prego my immunity went into overdrive, I wouldn't worry. Plus it is in our neck of the woods, not yours..So, just don't mingle with Romands, much.

We had a few epidemies recently already (the latest were rubeola, norovirus..). The vax numbers for the MMR is the lowest in Europe last time I heard.

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norovirus...
Tell me about it, going round my kids' school at the moment. My daughter came home on Monday all sad because her very best friend had to be taken home after upchucking at school; cue obsessive handwashing for the rest of the day.

Am crossing everything I have that my kids won't get it, as we're travelling next week.
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Hey, when I was prego my immunity went into overdrive, I wouldn't worry. Plus it is in our neck of the woods, not yours..So, just don't mingle with Romands, much.

We had a few epidemies recently already (the latest were rubeola, norovirus..). The vax numbers for the vax that targets rubeola, mumps and measles is the lowest in Europe last time I heard.
That is the other one I am not immune too. Those vaccinations just won't work on me...

The thing is even when staying away of you guys, it is such a small country that every bugs goes around pretty fast. Not much we can do about it beside washing hands again and again...

I hope most of you over there won't have too many sick kids to deal with!
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What can I say, I've got it when I was young and I'm still there....

Don't understand all the noise about it, let kids have it, and it's done.
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What can I say, I've got it when I was young and I'm still there....

Don't understand all the noise about it, let kids have it, and it's done.
Yeah, so you didn't have complications. They are not so uncommon, I would be scared of cornea damage or encephalitis, etc.

Let's kid have it is a weird attitude, since there are a bunch of people aside of kids who shouldn't be exposed and who are not immune. But anyways, I don't want to get into vax fight, especially now, when I have read we have used vaccine a few years back that now is not considered safe, even here. MMR vaccine is not even on the black list in Hebdo.

Kodokan, hope you guys don't get the noro, it has come to us, it was mild, though. I have overdosed everyone in the family on vit C, do it, it's a great prevention, really fights off the viruses. 2x a day 1gr of vit C for adults, and 2x day 500miligr for our kiddo.
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What can I say, I've got it when I was young and I'm still there....

Don't understand all the noise about it, let kids have it, and it's done.
With kids, it is not much of a problem... What is a problem is when adults who have no immunity against it are exposed to kids. As an adult, it can be dangerous and can get very very sick. As a pregnant woman, it could kill my baby.
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What can I say, I've got it when I was young and I'm still there....

Don't understand all the noise about it, let kids have it, and it's done.
Most kids are just as you say - sick for a week or so, then fine. But there's quite a high chance of complications; digging back in my MMR-vaccine-scare memory (my son was coming up 18 months then), I recall that serious complications from measles run at about 1 in 500-1000 kids. Serious complications mean things like blindness, brain damage and death.

It's so easy to forget just how serious these things were, I was the same until I did the research, thought measles was a bit like chicken pox or having a bad cold. I've got a collection of childcare books from the early 20th century, and they're fascinating. There's a huge emphasis on disease and controlling infection - using airlocks made of curtains, only one adult helping the measles-stricken child and putting on special 'sick room' clothes, sending siblings off to relatives in the country and so on. Reads like the kid's got the Ebola virus in modern terms!
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