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Can I ask another silly question?

You say you don't want to get married, been there, done that, don't want to do it again, or at least not for a while yet. Fair enough. Yet in the same post you refer to the lady as your 'fiancee'.

Maybe I'm old-fashioned in my language, but I assume this means you have asked her to marry you (or consented, when she asked you to marry her.)

Why did you do that, if you don't actually want to get married?
No problem, your question is a fair one.

We want to get married, but we don't want to be rushed into it for immigration issues, I wanted to get a job first, get settled, etc.

Maybe I'm a bit old fashioned too, I would not like to enter marriage as an unemployed man. I was looking for a better way. I take marriage fairly seriously, so I was not interested in having one due to this situation, as if there is no choice.
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And are equally frowned upon in the US.
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Old 02.03.2011, 21:36
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And are equally frowned upon in the US.
Thing is I didn't ask anything about Sham marriages. I know how to get married LOL. I was looking for legitimate options, some folks are just "stuck on stupid"...or they just like playing the troll, guess they have nothing better going on...
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Germany allows you to register your civil partnership without restrictions -marriage- even when only one of the 2 partners is a holder of an EEA +CH citizenship.
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LOL get off your high horse. Play by the rules? GTFO. Am I supposed to feel bad now? LOL I would be working, helping the Swiss economy, paying my taxes, I'm in good health, so I don't need your semi-socialist medical system, and I have no history of crime/violence.

It is a win-win if the xenophobes Hans, Pierre, Dieter know it or not. I will definitely contribute more to the economy than the refugees I see walking around all day long in circles at Marktplatz hitting on ugly chicks saying "Hey baby...wants some hash" lol

If Swiss people were as smart as they pride themselves (or as practical) they would have a point system like Canada, and cut the refugee crap (most of it is fraudulent anyway...I know, I know a Nigerian here, he told me all about it because I"m a "brother

" lol Those guys make fools out of the Swiss RULES daily.).
I am Canadian. You wouldn't get in. You need to be functionally bilingual or have family in Canada to get in.

Try learning German. You will have many opportunities in Germany. In Switzerland, they have a very low limit of visas that they give out to non-EU workers. Even Google in Zurich is having a hard time with PhD IT people. So, as an assistant DB (whatever that is, have never heard of it in 15 years of IT work), you are very limited. You won't get a job in Germany either without speaking German.

My advice is go to the UK or do the Hausfrau thing.
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Germany allows you to register your civil partnership without restrictions -marriage- even when only one of the 2 partners is a holder of an EEA +CH citizenship.
Thank you, finally something useful.

I will look into this more. We were trying to stay in Switzerland, but we are both open to go to Germany, and it seems like I will have to make a decision in the next week if we are going there or not. Bonn seems more interesting than Zurich anyway, but the main issue is my fiancee would take a substantial pay cut. She is a nurse, and further, nursing there is about equal to a "nursing assistant" here, they don't let them do anything. It is not good for her career, she doesn't want to be a Hausfrau, etc.
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I was looking for legitimate options
And you were given one: get married.

In the meantime, you might want to search the forum for "fiancee visa" ... and do something about that attitude problem of yours...
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Thing is I didn't ask anything about Sham marriages. I know how to get married LOL. I was looking for legitimate options, some folks are just "stuck on stupid"...or they just like playing the troll, guess they have nothing better going on...
I understand your logic for not wanting to get married - especially if you previously had a bad experience -- but there have to be other ways to obtain your goal. But having a meltdown on a public forum in Switzerland - akin to a 2 year old having a temper tantrum -- because you don't/can't/won't committ to the only legitimate way of obtaining the B permit you need to gain lawful employment in Switzerland would make me think it's someone else who is stuck on stupid.
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I am Canadian. You wouldn't get in. You need to be functionally bilingual or have family in Canada to get in.

Try learning German. You will have many opportunities in Germany. In Switzerland, they have a very low limit of visas that they give out to non-EU workers. Even Google in Zurich is having a hard time with PhD IT people. So, as an assistant DB (whatever that is, have never heard of it in 15 years of IT work), you are very limited. You won't get a job in Germany either without speaking German.

My advice is go to the UK or do the Hausfrau thing.
You mean Hausmann.

I speak low intermediate German, but it is not good enough to work. I've been doing nothing the last few months but study German and look for jobs.

You don't need to be functionally bilingual to get into Canada, that is nonsense, I have a Chinese friend who got in, and she had nothing but a Master's in Engineering, plus she speaks very good English. I've looked over the Canadian point system rules, out of curiosity as well.

If you bothered to read, you would already know I've been offered a job in Germany (not sure why I'm trying with someone who is obviously more interested in making a statement than listening).

I'm not an "assistant DB" what the hell are you talking about?

I'm a database analyst. I also have several years of database application support using Business Objects and Cognos.

The job I might take in Germany involves doing complex Cognos reports to run off an internal website (intranet) for certain folks to run their numbers,etc. I primarily work with Sybase databases, but I've also worked with Oracle. Specifically I've worked on several front end applications for HR and procurement, several large ones, as as SPS, the database app system used by most U.S. military sites all over the world. I've even did VB programming for a front end DB app before.

Assistant whatever..GTFO...try reading.

It requires no German.

There are plenty of jobs here and in Germany that do not require German (or French), are you not aware of this? I see them every single day. I have been approached by several companies.

The issue is not language, although admitted that would make it easier.

The issue is the "B" visa, as you have stated, even PhD's for Google can't get hired, which is asinine. What you are wrong in stating, is that it is equally hard to get into Germany and Switzerland, it is definitely not. Germany is hard , but easier than Switzerland I think by far. I've been offered 2 jobs (let me repeat myself because you seem slow, 2 JOBs both in Bonn), NOT ONE JOB in Switzerland.

You have anything else to say so I can repeat myself again...??
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Thank you, finally something useful.

I will look into this more. We were trying to stay in Switzerland, but we are both open to go to Germany, and it seems like I will have to make a decision in the next week if we are going there or not. Bonn seems more interesting than Zurich anyway, but the main issue is my fiancee would take a substantial pay cut. She is a nurse, and further, nursing there is about equal to a "nursing assistant" here, they don't let them do anything. It is not good for her career, she doesn't want to be a Hausfrau, etc.
I've been reading this with interest. I might be wrong, but your an American, aren't you ?
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YOu mean Hausmann.
Nope.

Pretty sure she was right the first time.
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YOu mean Hausmann.

I speak low intermediate German, but it is not good enough to work. I've been doing nothing the last few months but study German and look for jobs.

You don't need to be functionally bilingual to get into Canada, that is nonsense, I have a Chinese friend who got in, and she had nothing but a Master's in Engineering, plus she speaks very good English. I've looked over the Canadian point system rules, out of curiosity as well.

If you bothered to read, you would already know I've been offered a job in Germany (not sure why I'm trying with someone who is obviously more interested in making a statement than listening).

I'm not an "assistant DB" what the hell are you talking about?

I'm a database analyst. I also have several years of database application support using Business Objects and Cognos.

The job I might take in Germany involves doing complex Cognos reports to run off an internal website (intranet) for certain folks to run their numbers,etc.

It requires no German.

There are plenty of jobs here and in Germany that do not require German (or French), are you not aware of this? I see them every single day. I have been approached by several companies.

The issue is not language, although admitted that would make it easier.

The issue is the "B" visa, as you have stated, even PhD's for Google can't get hired, which is asinine. What you are wrong in stating, is that it is equally hard to get into Germany and Switzerland, it is definitely not. Germany is hard , but easier than Switzerland I think by far. I've been offered 2 jobs (let me repeat myself because you seem slow, 2 JOBs both in Bonn), NOT ONE JOB in Switzerland.

You have anything else to say so I can repeat myself again...??
nope, your options are limited by your lack of German, and your bad personality.

and Canada does require French if you don't have an advanced degree.

database analyst? never heard of it. it must be something that the US community colleges give out.
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I understand your logic for not wanting to get married - especially if you previously had a bad experience -- but there have to be other ways to obtain your goal. But having a meltdown on a public forum in Switzerland - akin to a 2 year old having a temper tantrum -- because you don't/can't/won't committ to the only legitimate way of obtaining the B permit you need to gain lawful employment in Switzerland would make me think it's someone else who is stuck on stupid.

1) I did not have a meltdown
2) I asked a legit question
3) You stated some off topic nonsense about homosexuals in America.
4) Your friend (boyfriend) stated some off topic nonsense about shame marriages (which I did not even state or consider on this site, based on his assumptions, not my words)
5) now you are attempting to backtrack and make it look like I did something wrong, which in reality the only thing I did wrong, was respond to you (and your fellow travelers) lunacy.

6) Yes I have complaints about Switzerland system
7) Yes I'm sarcastic
8) Never lie about what I have said or I will take it personally and respond nastily (unless you are mentally ill or retarded and I will feel sorry for you and apologize).
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nope, your options are limited by your lack of German, and your bad personality.

and Canada does require French if you don't have an advanced degree.

database analyst? never heard of it. it must be something that the US community colleges give out.
i do have an advanced degree...who said I did not, but it is an MBA, not in computer science, I have a B.S. in that.

As for your community college comment and your assumption about my education (based on nothing), and your assumption about my attitude (when you have never met me in real life), tell me that you are hear to grandstand, which is why you have received so many groans previously on this board, more than "Thanks". Which does indeed tell me something about your personality as evaluated by other people.

You have something else stupid to say?

As far as my German. Uhm...why are you repeating yourself when I have already agreed that is a problem, but as I said, that is NOT THE PROBLEM, as I have a job offer pending, it is just in a location I do not specifically want to be.

It seems that there are two large multinational in Bonn thinks a lot of my "community college education" and will sponsor a work visa. One I won't be taking and have already sent them a nice refusal. The other, I don't know...

Anything else stupid to say tonight?


Oh one more thing, for your education purposes, a DB analyst is someone who does support and upkeep (upgrades, patches), which is different from development. Sometimes, analyst do work under DBAs. It really depends on how the company is set up. I have primarily worked as support for DBA's at client cites or offsite, specifically, because due to license, they are not allowed to jack with our propitiatory software, without our consent. That was the last job I had for a long while...
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I strongly advise you to go and work in Germany. With the attitude of yours, you'll learn hell of a lot working for a German boss...

Good luck.
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I have a B.S. in B.S.
Fixed that for you.
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1) I did not have a meltdown
2) I asked a legit question
2.1) I received a thorough, on-topic, nonsarcastic answer to that question
2.5) in reply to which I brought up the topic of discrimination in the first place
3) You stated some off topic nonsense about homosexuals in America.
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Fixed that for you.
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1) I did not have a meltdown
2) I asked a legit question
3) You stated some off topic nonsense about homosexuals in America.
4) Your friend (boyfriend) stated some off topic nonsense about shame marriages (which I did not even state or consider on this site, based on his assumptions, not my words)
5) now you are attempting to backtrack and make it look like I did something wrong, which in reality the only thing I did wrong, was respond to you (and your fellow travelers) lunacy.

6) Yes I have complaints about Switzerland system
7) Yes I'm sarcastic
8) Never lie about what I have said or I will take it personally and respond nastily (unless you are mentally ill or retarded and I will feel sorry for you and apologize).
I guess this must be normal behaviour for you then.

And, trust me, your lack of German is a big, big issue. Nobody here hires non-German speaking people anymore. UBS and Crédit Suisse used to. They don't anymore. Google does but you don't have the requirements to get into that place with your community college certificate.

Try adjusting to reality instead of trying to force reality into your requirements.
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Fixed that for you.
I was obviously joking about discrimination which is why I posted a smiley face to begin with.
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I've not lied or misrepresented anything you've posted -- only responded to your tantrum because you can't have what you want. You seem to be the poster child for the "bad American" - and I am an American and can therefore say that without any hesitation.

My comment about gay marriage was because you wanted to find out if you could use the EP as a way to obtain your work visa (check account name for accuracy) but at the same time get out of it easily. That can be also taken as a shame marriage -- even though you have a financee.

By the way had you analysized (searched) the EF database - you would have threads regarding the fiance visa process. Maybe that would have been helpful.

If you don't like Switzerland or it's laws and regulations - it's simple -- leave.
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