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I was obviously joking about discrimination which is why I posted a smiley face to begin with.
Er, this isn't a smiley face:


This is a smiley face:

I presume you have smiley faces where you come from?

EDIT: I see you're from Washington DC, so your ignorance of such matters may be excused.
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i do have an advanced degree...who said I did not, but it is an MBA, not in computer science, I have a B.S. in that.

As for your community college comment and your assumption about my education (based on nothing), and your assumption about my attitude (when you have never met me in real life), tell me that you are hear to grandstand, which is why you have received so many groans previously on this board, more than "Thanks". Which does indeed tell me something about your personality as evaluated by other people.

You have something else stupid to say?

As far as my German. Uhm...why are you repeating yourself when I have already agreed that is a problem, but as I said, that is NOT THE PROBLEM, as I have a job offer pending, it is just in a location I do not specifically want to be.

It seems that there are two large multinational in Bonn thinks a lot of my "community college education" and will sponsor a work visa. One I won't be taking and have already sent them a nice refusal. The other, I don't know...

Anything else stupid to say tonight?


Oh one more thing, for your education purposes, a DB analyst is someone who does support and upkeep (upgrades, patches), which is different from development. Sometimes, analyst do work under DBAs. It really depends on how the company is set up. I have primarily worked as support for DBA's at client cites or offsite, specifically, because due to license, they are not allowed to jack with our propitiatory software, without our consent. That was the last job I had for a long while...
wow. your job is something I do in my spare time on the job. LOL

and an MBA for IT is considered a joke.

support for DBA's. never heard of it. do you get their coffee?

A German atmosphere will give you an attitude re-adjustment in a few weeks. I highly recommend it for the sake of your fiancée.
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Old 02.03.2011, 22:16
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I speak low intermediate German, but it is not good enough to work. I've been doing nothing the last few months but study German and look for jobs.
Great, same level as mine then! I am happy to google things in German for people who can't do it themselves. Next time I will just point you in the direction of the Bundesgesetz and leave you to it.

(You are really not doing yourself any favors carrying on like this. Just let it go. Relax. Ignore 'offtopic nonsense' as you put it. It's only the Internet. What do you stand to lose by not responding?)
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I guess this must be normal behaviour for you then.

And, trust me, your lack of German is a big, big issue. Nobody here hires non-German speaking people anymore. UBS and Crédit Suisse used to. They don't anymore. Google does but you don't have the requirements to get into that place with your community college certificate.

Try adjusting to reality instead of trying to force reality into your requirements.

And how fast do you expect me to learn business German well enough to work at a company?

As I said, which you seem to not understand (slow I guess), there are companies that would hire me with no German in Switzerland! The issue I have been told several times is the "B" visa.

I'm also not just applying in the Deutschschweisz.

A recruiter suggested to me in January to apply in Geneva, if I was willing to move.

I did. The only Swiss companies to call me (but on in Zurich) were in Geneve. It's amazing, but if you check the site jobup.ch, there are plenty of jobs posted in Romande that require no French or German. Simply search something like SQL and English. You will find the jobs, there are quite a few, most are Development jobs though.

Zurich is tighter on the language requirements, but they exist, I've applied to many.

It's pretty surprising you are fairly ignorant to this. However you keep talking.

So really it is not "hire" it is "sponsor a visa for someone with no German or my skill-set".

Hire, with a "B" visa is no problem, I would have had a job two months ago, as a major multinational was interested in me, called me directly...a bank. I had a referral from a friend in America, but once again "B" visa.



If you don't believe than, you can message me, and I will give you the name of recruiters, maybe they can help you out.

In any case, Germans are more lax than Swiss about this sort of thing.
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Great, same level as mine then! I am happy to google things in German for people who can't do it themselves. Next time I will just point you in the direction of the Bundesgesetz and leave you to it.

(You are really not doing yourself any favors carrying on like this. Just let it go. Relax. Ignore 'offtopic nonsense' as you put it. It's only the Internet. What do you stand to lose by not responding?)
And who do I need to do myself favors for? Trolls? That's all these other people. Besides you, one other person posted something on topic and relevant, good info, I can use. The rest are just losers, who apparently don't realize they are amusing me.
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And who do I need to do myself favors for? Trolls? That's all these other people. Besides you, one other person posted something on topic and relevant, good info, I can use. The rest are just losers, who apparently don't realize they are amusing me.
You mean losers who happened to tell you what you didn't want to hear, which is that civil partnerships for heterosexual couples are called, somewhat surprisingly, marriages?

Shall I pick those toys up for you, or are you going to get out of your pram yourself to get them?
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And you were given one: get married.

In the meantime, you might want to search the forum for "fiancee visa" ... and do something about that attitude problem of yours...
Fiancee visa won't help him. It is only to come to CH and stay a maximum of 9 months. If no marriage takes place, he will have to return home.
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And who do I need to do myself favors for? Trolls? That's all these other people. Besides you, one other person posted something on topic and relevant, good info, I can use. The rest are just losers, who apparently don't realize they are amusing me.
Nope. Not trolls. Opinionated, I'll grant you, but also quite helpful posters when the occasion warrants. One of them almost certainly would have given you the same information I did - if I hadn't beat them to it.

And DB did tell you to check on the fiancé/e visa possibilities - useful and on-topic. Have you done that yet?
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The rest are just losers, who apparently don't realize they are amusing me.
or you could just be the loser amusing us -
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And how fast do you expect me to learn business German well enough to work at a company?

As I said, which you seem to not understand (slow I guess), there are companies that would hire me with no German in Switzerland! The issue I have been told several times is the "B" visa.

I'm also not just applying in the Deutschschweisz.

A recruiter suggested to me in January to apply in Geneva, if I was willing to move.

I did. The only Swiss companies to call me (but on in Zurich) were in Geneve. It's amazing, but if you check the site jobup.ch, there are plenty of jobs posted in Romande that require no French or German. Simply search something like SQL and English. You will find the jobs, there are quite a few, most are Development jobs though.

Zurich is tighter on the language requirements, but they exist, I've applied to many.

It's pretty surprising you are fairly ignorant to this. However you keep talking.

So really it is not "hire" it is "sponsor a visa for someone with no German or my skill-set".

Hire, with a "B" visa is no problem, I would have had a job two months ago, as a major multinational was interested in me, called me directly...a bank. I had a referral from a friend in America, but once again "B" visa.



If you don't believe than, you can message me, and I will give you the name of recruiters, maybe they can help you out.

In any case, Germans are more lax than Swiss about this sort of thing.

No, these people are kidding you. They can say anything because they know they really can't hire you. Americans can't even get an L visa, let alone a B visa.

And, even if the job is in English, both in Geneva and in Zurich, they prefer to hire people who speak the local language, and you don't. I have worked in Geneva, so I know. They don't even want to have someone around who doesn't speak French if you're not European.

Your only solution is to find a job elsewhere until you learn German well enough to work here, or get married and then find out that you really do need German.

You can stamp your little feet all you want, but that's reality.
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Thank you, finally something useful.

I will look into this more. We were trying to stay in Switzerland, but we are both open to go to Germany, and it seems like I will have to make a decision in the next week if we are going there or not. Bonn seems more interesting than Zurich anyway, but the main issue is my fiancee would take a substantial pay cut. She is a nurse, and further, nursing there is about equal to a "nursing assistant" here, they don't let them do anything. It is not good for her career, she doesn't want to be a Hausfrau, etc.
Consider France also; they allow you to register a civil partnership -on condition that of you is an EEA+CH citizen.
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And who do I need to do myself favors for? Trolls? That's all these other people. Besides you, one other person posted something on topic and relevant, good info, I can use. The rest are just losers, who apparently don't realize they are amusing me.
Well skilled people will get offered jobs, irrespective of country. If you haven't got the offer you need get better skills and don't rely on paper degrees in an industry such as IT which is more concerned with proven ability.
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Fiancee visa won't help him. It is only to come to CH and stay a maximum of 9 months. If no marriage takes place, he will have to return home.
True... it won't get him a work visa immediately, but if the relationship is definitely headed for marriage as he says, it will buy him some time to deal with any remaining unreadinesses and get that sorted. Depends on just how 'unready' he is, I suppose.
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You are non-EU, so you are at the end of the queue for work permits. That's Swiss immigration law. No way around it. The earlier you accept this fact, the better is it for your health, as it is proven that stress hormones get on your stomac. We don't want you to have a gastric ulcer. We care about you.
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American, if you're dead set on staying in the EU legally pm me there is a way -but not in CH.
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wow. your job is something I do in my spare time on the job. LOL

and an MBA for IT is considered a joke.

support for DBA's. never heard of it. do you get their coffee?

A German atmosphere will give you an attitude re-adjustment in a few weeks. I highly recommend it for the sake of your fiancée.
Jobs you have never heard of:

http://zug.locanto.ch/ID_112435218/S...s-Analyst.html

http://www.stellen.ch/detail.php?iid...hcode=de&pid=8

http://www.stellen.ch/detail.php?iid...hcode=de&pid=8

http://www.stellen.ch/detail.php?iid...hcode=de&pid=8

All just require English, no German, advertised in English. One I was called about just last week and rejected for due to not having a "B" visa.



Makes me wonder what else you don't know. You know Elvis and Michael Jackson are both dead right?
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Well skilled people will get offered jobs, irrespective of country. If you haven't got the offer you need get better skills and don't rely on paper degrees in an industry such as IT which is more concerned with proven ability.
That is not the case. Even PhD's at Google can't get work permits. Maybe they need to find themselves "a Swiss fiancée" too.
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OPs: you're too harsh on the guy!! relax!

As we're just coming from the worst recession since the greatest depression jobs are scarce -even more scarce in US/UK/EU. Employers have leverage over you as they have too many applicants -as opposed to times of prosperity. They want the degree, the experience, the language (s), the permits and the personality when in the past prosperous years, they could have settled for only 2 or 3 of the aforementioned 5.
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True... it won't get him a work visa immediately, but if the relationship is definitely headed for marriage as he says, it will buy him some time to deal with any remaining unreadinesses and get that sorted. Depends on just how 'unready' he is, I suppose.
Actually this might work, more time is good for us, but I would wish to work.

Thank you for bring this up, something else to look into.
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Jobs you have never heard of:

http://zug.locanto.ch/ID_112435218/S...s-Analyst.html

http://www.stellen.ch/detail.php?iid...hcode=de&pid=8

http://www.stellen.ch/detail.php?iid...hcode=de&pid=8

http://www.stellen.ch/detail.php?iid...hcode=de&pid=8

All just require English, no German, advertised in English. One I was called about just last week and rejected for due to not having a "B" visa.



Makes me wonder what else you don't know. You know Elvis and Michael Jackson are both dead right?
And if you had a "B" visa, they would tell you that your German is not good enough. Trust me, I have a ton of friends in that situation, and some of them are Oracle certified.
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