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Old 24.03.2011, 12:59
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Best freaking invention in the whole world!
Meh...too natural! The Queen gave birth on proper morphine She probably felt great
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Re: Natural, Non-Medicated Birth in Zurich

Congratulations on your pregnancy, and I very much hope you have the delivery you're planning for.

But, just in case you don't, can I offer a little advice? If you're anything like me or anyone else I've ever discussed this with, at the moment you're not 'having a baby', you're 'having a pregnancy'. And the delivery is seen as the pinnacle of the experience. All this is right and proper, and very normal.

Once you're into the thick of the childhood years, though, and fretting about potty-training, and early reading skills, and primary school, and whether your child has any friends, and secondary school, and choosing the right subjects, and way beyond, the actual delivery will be so irrelevant it's laughable. So, if it doesn't go to plan despite your best efforts at choosing the right support staff/environment/classes, don't beat yourself up over it (because people do) and don't be too disappointed. In the long run, it honestly won't matter a jot.

Good luck for the rest of the pregnancy and beyond.
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Old 24.03.2011, 13:47
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Congratulation!

First you should make sure with your doctor that your hip bones are enough wide to allow a baby to pass. My family doctor told me years ago that I would have problems to give birth naturally because of it and when I told that to my Gyn/Ob, she dismissed it like a stupid useless piece of information.

Guess what happened? The baby couldn't passed and multiple medical interventions were made and it almost finished tragically.

For this pregnancy, I have a doctor well aware of the situation and who listen to ME. So make sure your doctor is listening to you, sharing with you and is there with you as a team mate. If you are not happy, change your doctor.

Next thing, look for a device called Epi-No. It helps you to stretch the birth canal to prevent episiotomy. It gets great results from the use of it and do reduce the chance to have an episiotomy. If you have a complementary insurance, they cover half of the cost.

www.avoidepisiotomy.com

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More than that, I can't help you. I have no experience of that place nor of a natural birth without any intervention!

Thanks, Nil! And everyone... I am definitely open to intervention when necessary, and having been present at my nephew's birth, I know birth can't be planned rigidly. So, Nil, good point about the hips - the doctor said there is "plenty of room." I'll look into the Epi-No too!
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Re: Natural, Non-Medicated Birth in Zurich

I was at Triemli and as I said before it was really nice, but they only have one big birth pool as well...
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Re: Natural, Non-Medicated Birth in Zurich

Hi there

I had a great experience at the Klinik Im Park-the staff were fantastic! They give you the freedom to choose what you would like-there is a drug offered only there I think that you can administer every 2 minutes when in labour and it gives you the same effect as taking gas...also the bath with oils is great which they can get ready for you. I ended up with an epidural though and even with my decision to have it at 7cm-I was able to get it done within half an hour. At no stage was I swayed against it or told to push through it-excuse the pun! My doc happened to be there for another patient which was fantastic and visited me everyday after-I think this depends whether you are fully private! They are also open to family visiting during the birth and when I had had the epidural which was super-although only my hubby present for the birth.
I would recommend going for the birth classes there too and you can have a tour of the labour ward after too....
Having an episiotomy etc depends on the gynae really-and can only really be determined in the later stages of the birth process-In my opinion,go for what they suggest-it helps if the baby is bigger and the staff ensure good aftercare support there!

Good luck and enjoy the pregnancy!!
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I had a great experience at the Klinik Im Park-the staff were fantastic! They give you the freedom to choose what you would like-there is a drug offered only there I think that you can administer every 2 minutes when in labour and it gives you the same effect as taking gas...also the bath with oils is great which they can get ready for you. I ended up with an epidural though and even with my decision to have it at 7cm-I was able to get it done within half an hour. At no stage was I swayed against it or told to push through it-excuse the pun! My doc happened to be there for another patient which was fantastic and visited me everyday after-I think this depends whether you are fully private! They are also open to family visiting during the birth and when I had had the epidural which was super-although only my hubby present for the birth.
I would recommend going for the birth classes there too and you can have a tour of the labour ward after too....
Having an episiotomy etc depends on the gynae really-and can only really be determined in the later stages of the birth process-In my opinion,go for what they suggest-it helps if the baby is bigger and the staff ensure good aftercare support there!

Good luck and enjoy the pregnancy!!
Thank you so much! That is really helpful information. The more I talk to people who have given birth there, the more I'm starting to see that they really follow each woman's lead individually. That is lovely because we are all so different and naturally we want different things. I feel really fortunate giving birth to my first child in Switzerland. I find the healthcare here to be excellent and I feel like I have a lot more choice than I would have in the US.

My husband and I have enrolled for the birth preparation course, Flod, and yes, I am enjoying pregnancy so much!! Thanks again!
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Re: Natural, Non-Medicated Birth in Zurich

Congratulations I wish you the very best and hope for you that you can hve a natural birth (as women have done for millenia) but it's also true that it's very smart to have your ducks all lined up in a row just in case you need medical assistance.
Olygirl is spot on !
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I am 13 weeks pregnant with our first child!!! My husband and I plan on having our baby at Klinik Im Park in Zurich. We want to make sure we'll have the greatest chance possible of having a natural, non-medicated birth there before we register in several weeks' time.

If you gave birth at Klinik Im Park, I'd love to hear about your experience.
  • What was the care from the midwives like during labor?
  • At what stage did your doctor arrive?
  • What type of medical interventions (for example, fetal monitoring, episiotomy, oxytocin or pitocin drip) were used? Did you feel involved in the decision making?
  • Did you feel your labor was allowed to progress naturally and at its own pace?
  • Were you able to move around and change position?
Based on our visit, Klinik Im Park seems to be very pro-natural birth, but all the same, I'd really love to hear firsthand what other's personal experiences at Klinik Im Park have been.

Thank you so much for sharing!!
Hello there!
Gave birth there 2,5 yrs ago and getting ready for second round. I was overall very happy with the care there and am looking forward to it second time.

Now to your questions:
  • What was the care from the midwives like during labor?
We had 1 midwife following us from beginning to end, daughter born at 640 so then there was a shift change an dothe rmidwife took over. She was excellent and caring, just a bit rushed as I got in 8cm dilated without noticing so she had to rush me to the birth room whilst I was still talking about aromatherapy
  • At what stage did your doctor arrive?
Doc arrived about 20 mins before birth itself. They usually call them very late at the Klinik, they need to be there for the birth itself but not through the rest.
  • What type of medical interventions (for example, fetal monitoring, episiotomy, oxytocin or pitocin drip) were used? Did you feel involved in the decision making?
I was involved all the way up to the point where a Kiwi (or ventouse) was used. To this date I am still unsure why...
The rest, oxy etc, I was asked and when I saw something going on I would ask and demand.
Episitomoy: I really did not want one but my ginae had warned me early on I would most likely end up with on eas my baby had a huge head and she preferred that than "star" tearing. I subsequently read up on it and chose the type I wanted to felt part of the process. I told her eaxctly what I wanted and she did it. It was fine.
  • Did you feel your labor was allowed to progress naturally and at its own pace?
Yes... well in our case at one point I was asked if I wanted drugs to slow it as contractions were too strong and almost not spaced out, we refused and it was fine.
As said, only the Kiwi usage at the end was a bit werid.
But honestly by then I so wanted it over that I also did not complain, felt relieved actually.
  • Were you able to move around and change position?
Yes would have been but did not want to... I thought I would want to but honestl when time came, I only wanted to half sit and not move any longer. But yes, you can move around.
I could not have a water birth but hope to have one for the second child as moving in water is so much easier


One suggestion apart from all that has been shared above is to potentially ensure hubby is very aware of your birth plan and champions it on the day. We are very clear this second time that hubby should do that, as it is too much for you to do that and labour at the same time. Hubby needs to be confident about it and not afraid to speak up for you, not have the attitude "docs know best". A doula could also help in this.

All the best and pls stay relaxed, many things may change both in your mind and what is physically possible in the ocming months!


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Private hospitals are known to have a higher rate of medical intervention and c-sections in general.
This may be true in general but amongst the Kliniks in Zurich KIM is actually really known to be very pro natural
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Thank you, Kri!! We are in the process of interviewing doulas so I'm glad to hear you recommend we have one. I can't thank you enough for recounting your experience. Best of luck to you on the water birth with baby two.
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