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single mum needs advice on coping with work an baby...HELP:

Hi everyone,
i am a single mother,got a job three days a week, and finding it so hard getting an affordable day-care for my 15months old baby.
The thing is, what am being asked to pay hourly is more than what i earn hourly, but i need to work to backup my stay(if u know what i mean). just can´t be getting social money and do that.
please has anyone got an idea on how i can find something within reach for my baby?
i enjoy the idea of working so much.it beats being idle and getting social money.
waiting for some ideas,thanks.
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Re: single mum needs advice on coping with work an baby...HELP:

This is a reality of parenting small children.

Do you have family support that can help with childcare ? Have you tried your Gemeinde to find out whether there are any subsidised child care places available ? Do you get financial support from the father of the child - can he be required to also pay part of the child care costs ?

The other possibility is to try to find someone where you can share a nanny or share childcaring for each other.

The other option is to accept that the job is not for you, and you need something where you could either bring your child, or have cheaper childcare arrangements.

I can totally relate to your situation in the sense that I love to work and hate being stuck at home with small children, but it does take a massive support network to be a mum who also has paid employment...your job as a mum is also extremely important, and certainly you are entitled to social payments to ensure that your small child has their basic needs met, and for the sake of the future...

What is your work/profession ? Maybe there is a way to combine some childcare, some working from home, some family care...
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Re: single mum needs advice on coping with work an baby...HELP:

I just wanted to say, staying home and parenting does not make you 'idle'...it's a more than full-time job, and if you feel like you want to get out and do things there are plenty of organisations for mother and baby that you could be a part of...

In terms of career progression, the best thing I did when 'idle' was volunteer work, around my kids, and it built up to some great opportunities which I can put on my CV which I would never have had in paid work...
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Re: single mum needs advice on coping with work an baby...HELP:

thanks for ur response.
i dont get support from the father as we are hardly in contact and he is no longer in switzerland.
had some discussion with my social lady and she asked me to search on my own for some sort of a tagesmutter but within a certain limit.been searching in vain.tried asking around if i could do the switch baby-sitting thing ,but hard to find another working mum whose program and mine could fit.
before now i´ve been getting social help,but nothing beats the feeling of earning your own money.besides its good for my papers too when i work.u know how it is here.
my mind is a mess just thinking of how to sort things out.for now i get help from friends,but then they got their own programs too, so help from them is not always reliable.
i need something reliable and within reach. ASAP.
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I just wanted to say, staying home and parenting does not make you 'idle'...it's a more than full-time job, and if you feel like you want to get out and do things there are plenty of organisations for mother and baby that you could be a part of...

In terms of career progression, the best thing I did when 'idle' was volunteer work, around my kids, and it built up to some great opportunities which I can put on my CV which I would never have had in paid work...

its kind of complicated.

like i said i need to work for my papers.wont mind some volunteer work too though.

talking about organisations for mother and baby,could u please give me some names?thanks.
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Re: single mum needs advice on coping with work an baby...HELP:

Find a Krippenplatz, and then apply to get it subsidized by the commune. With 40000 income, 3 days a week, for a single parent, this would be 390 Franks a month.

http://www.krippenpool.ch/fs_tarif.p...e=Kinderkrippe
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Find a Krippenplatz, and then apply to get it subsidized by the commune. With 40000 income, 3 days a week, for a single parent, this would be 390 Franks a month.

http://www.krippenpool.ch/fs_tarif.p...e=Kinderkrippe

thanks.

but what if one earn less than that?got some sort of a list with incomes and how much one gets to pay for d krippe?

checking out d website right away though.
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Re: single mum needs advice on coping with work an baby...HELP:

well,a friend of mine went to the 'gemeindhaus' and asked for a social nanny,they are nanny working for the state,and the 'gemeindhaus' pays more than half of the nanny salary,and the mother pays the rest,that s a great help for single mothers like you.
hope that will help
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Re: single mum needs advice on coping with work an baby...HELP:

Can you not track the father down and make him contribute to your childs up bringing? Did he leave before your child was born?
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Re: single mum needs advice on coping with work an baby...HELP:

The gemeinde usually has a list of tagesmutter (day mothers) that are willing to look after kids. Obviously the good ones are quickly booked up.

In Baden you can also ask at the Karussel. http://www.karussell-baden.ch/
Which may or may not also help you find a support network.

You could also put an add, or reply to an add here: (put 540 in the PLZ and you see a list of whats happening in Baden)
http://kinderbetreuung.liliput.ch/Ki...ng_suchen.aspx

And this woman has been listed here a while, but you could always ask:
http://kinderbetreuung.liliput.ch/it....aspx?Id=33241

From what i hear, tagesmütter can "cost" between 7-15 chf per hour per kid, depending on the age of the kid. The neighbours nanny gets 25chf an hour, but has had them since the second one was 4 months, and the eldest 21 months - so that was full-on. I think the neighbour is now looking for someone cheaper..
Try these guys: http://www.tagesfamilienbaden.ch/pages/ueberuns.htm

Here is the single parents club in the Baden area.
http://www.alleinerziehende-baden.ch/


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Re: single mum needs advice on coping with work an baby...HELP:

The Tagesfamilie verein (roughly translated meaning childminder association) sets the rates for our local area at 10 Chf per child per hour, plus various allowances for
meals and snacks. There is however a reduced rate for people on low incomes - I believe it is about 7 Chf but I am not sure. You could look into that? Try searching under Tagesfamilie verein in the yellow pages for your area, or ask at the Gemeinde, they will definitely know.
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thanks for ur response.
i dont get support from the father as we are hardly in contact and he is no longer in switzerland.
had some discussion with my social lady and she asked me to search on my own for some sort of a tagesmutter but within a certain limit.been searching in vain.tried asking around if i could do the switch baby-sitting thing ,but hard to find another working mum whose program and mine could fit.
before now i´ve been getting social help,but nothing beats the feeling of earning your own money.besides its good for my papers too when i work.u know how it is here.
my mind is a mess just thinking of how to sort things out.for now i get help from friends,but then they got their own programs too, so help from them is not always reliable.
i need something reliable and within reach. ASAP.
sozialampt is one thing, there is also one for kids something like junge und kind ampt (german speakers please help me with this one) the point is that they will look for someone for you, the othe thing is that the gemaide help u to pay if you cant afford it. I can really not point you exactly but i will tell you how it worked for me. I went to the office for kids and underage and asked for help, they gave me the prices, then I went to zurich office and asked for help to pay that. They send me a formulary asking what i needed ie. full day or part day, how many days, including food? etc and asked proof of incoming, after they saw the family incoming they send you and answer saying how much you will cover and they take care of the rest. All this your sozial arbeiter is supossed to do for you, try to work things out to see if she gets softer, anyways you are on your way out from that system.
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Hi everyone,
i am a single mother,got a job three days a week, and finding it so hard getting an affordable day-care for my 15months old baby.
The thing is, what am being asked to pay hourly is more than what i earn hourly, but i need to work to backup my stay(if u know what i mean). just can´t be getting social money and do that.
please has anyone got an idea on how i can find something within reach for my baby?
i enjoy the idea of working so much.it beats being idle and getting social money.
waiting for some ideas,thanks.
Perhaps try www.greataupair.com

Have you done a search here for babysitters/childminders? and posted an ad?
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Re: single mum needs advice on coping with work an baby...HELP:

thanks a whole lot for all d ideas.

doing my best to put all these ideas together and come up with whats best for my baby and i...though not an easy task...lol...

am so loving and appreciating you all.putting u all in my prayers too.
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Can you not track the father down and make him contribute to your childs up bringing? Did he leave before your child was born?

the father left long before the baby was born.
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the father left long before the baby was born.
That shouldn't exclude him from having responsibilities to take care of his child. Contact your embassy to ask what to do in such cases, then I would contact his embassy (if he is a different nationality). There is an appropriate legal procedure in every country specifically for situations like these. It's not about your willingness to work anymore compared to being on social help, it slowly becomes about your child's welbeing. They grow up, their needs grow, too. For example, childcare. One thing is the cheapest you can afford at the moment, a nanny maybe. Another thing is to afford creche, which in my opinion is a lot more suitable for socialization and integration of your child within the community here. If the father contributes, maybe you would be able to afford a quality day care for your child, and have a job for yourself, not being forced to kill your professional career. Good luck and use the search button, there is a lot of info here on this specific topic.
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thanks for ur response.
i dont get support from the father as we are hardly in contact and he is no longer in switzerland.
had some discussion with my social lady and she asked me to search on my own for some sort of a tagesmutter but within a certain limit.been searching in vain.tried asking around if i could do the switch baby-sitting thing ,but hard to find another working mum whose program and mine could fit.
before now i´ve been getting social help,but nothing beats the feeling of earning your own money.besides its good for my papers too when i work.u know how it is here.
my mind is a mess just thinking of how to sort things out.for now i get help from friends,but then they got their own programs too, so help from them is not always reliable.
i need something reliable and within reach. ASAP.

What did the "social lady" mean "within a certain limit"? Price limit? Maybe they pay up to that amount then you have to pay the rest?

If you are on social benefit and/or on a low income there are I believe there are options for subsidized child care. A friend's sister was working for a low wage and she paid her child's creche based on this income. She was on social benefit until she go a job. At the end she paid 1F per hour for the creche based on her income.

Try asking the social lady again what she means and if there is subsidized child care based on your salary.
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Re: single mum needs advice on coping with work an baby...HELP:

Being on your own with a little one is hard work, and makes total sense that you need to work and sort out childcare.
Seeing as you're on your own and already receiving benefits, you should also be able to apply for help in paying for childcare. Have a look here http://www.krippenpool.ch/fs_home.htm to find more information on how to go about applying for a "subventionierter Krippenplatz".
Take a deep breath and one step after the other; you can and will do it one step at a time.
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