OK, too many moving goal posts for me - there's not enough here for me to trust it as an alternative to conventional medicine. If it works for the fans of homeopathy then that's lovely but my only brush with it was when a secretary gave me some balm to rub on my forehead once when I had a cracking headache and didn't have any Neurofen to hand. Made absolutely no difference.

Oh and the "globuli" they give out at daycare. WTF are they?

Darling, I don't really like the taste of this new brand of yoghurt you've been buying....

I see, wait, no I don't, do you? So you're saying water that someone has shaken 20 times gives a completly different effect to water shaken a 200 times?

So that "treat like with like", how does that fit in? Does the thing that is like something become like something else if you pretend it's in a different amount of water?

Hmmm, we can go quoting links, anti-links all day long. It has already been done on many other various threads and forums. That's not to say you don't deserve the answer you are looking for, just that other people can say it better than me in a way that might make you believe or disbelieve. I would only be a messenger. Should you however choose to look further, you will find that Homeopathy is scientifically proven to work beyond the placebo effect. You will also find Scientific proof that it doesn't. It's up to you what you choose to believe with an open mind rather than trying to win this argument in this forum.

Personally speaking, I do get a chuckle from some of the scorn, it's quite creative.

Hey, have you changed sides now, too?

KIndly explain.

Water existed on this planet before life first emerged.

Therefore water is older than the immune system.

Therefore homeopathy predates the immune system.

I never said that. I spoke about substances being diluted at 30c having different effects to the same substance being diluted at say 200c or 1M.

We can have a debate, but you really have to give proper time to my answer and avoid misquoting me.

Hush, cherub. Take these and you'll feel better.

That's it. Tablets are the answer to everything...

That reminds me when I was in Labor. The nurses and midwife kept giving me homeopathic pills to put under the tongue, which apparently help to control the pain.... I wanted to kill them, one by one in a very slow and painful death...

Labor and homeopathie... doesn't go together.

Easy Cowboy. What sort of logic is that ?

The immune system does not post-date Homeopathy as Weejem said. It was merely called that, and a name given to something that is as old as man itself. Shall we say that Modern Biology claimed to have discovered it, but it was there already and has been referred to in Ancient Chinese Medecine and other ancient texts.

People still keep harping on about glasses of water etc etc, but Homeopathy speaks of succussed solutions. Let's parody those instead shall we, people are starting to get confused about water. Your argument or whatever it is you posted is just way too obscure or comprehend-able.

You sure about that?

Because when I googled your article, it was plastered all over homeopathy websites, as some sort of "proof of principle".

From here...

Is now a good time to post this...?

Which labour #1 or #2?

I should think not. Homeopathy, classically speaking, was formulated to treat disease. Pregnancy is not a disease.

You're correct. That's why I wrote "replaced" in the way that I did. I just used this example for the sake of the argument

Quite sure. Thanks.

Butbutbut, I've just shown you that the authors of the article and a leading homeopath believe that this research shows that homeopathy has a scientific basis.

How can you then assert that you didn't post the article - in a thread about homeopathy, no less - to support the principle of homeopathy.

Seriously UTH. I expect better from you.

#1, not on the #2 yet. And won't foul around with stupid little white homeo pills...

Tsk-tsk, there you anti-homepathy types go, twisting my words again.

What Weejeem actually said was

Homeopathists cannot explain how their stuff works. No more than a Dr. can explain how a medicine works. They have a rough idea at best.

People have been ridiculing dilution for a while. Of course you are going to find evidence in it's favour on a a Homeopathic web site.

The study was not commissioned by Homeopathists. Nor was it first published on a Homeopathy web site.

I , for the record, did not post that link to support Homeopathy. I posted that link to detract from the ridicule being thrown at dilution. For the sake of this argument, I do not consider that article as part of the debate for Homeopathy.

I see the difference now. Took me a few takes. Sorry.