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Kindergarten: ratio of teachers to children

Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows what the ration of teachers per 2.5-3.5 year old children should be in a kindergarten? Is there anything related to it in Swiss law? Thanks!
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Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows what the ration of teachers per 2.5-3.5 year old children should be in a kindergarten? Is there anything related to it in Swiss law? Thanks!
Children aren't in Kindergarten until the age of four at the earliest but usually five.
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Re: kindergarten: ration of teachers per children

Sorry, I meant a prekindergarten / nursery.
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Sorry, I meant a prekindergarten / nursery.
I'm not sure. My wife will know -I'll ask her but you'll probably get the answer from someone else here first.
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Re: kindergarten: ration of teachers per children

Yes, please ask her. Thanks!
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Re: kindergarten: ration of teachers per children

Depends on the Canton as well as the qualifications of the carers, and it also depends on the specific age, and the licencing situation of the child care centre.

It's also a 'group' size thing rather than a 'x many kids for x many carers'...

What's the group size ? What's the age range of the specific children in the group ? Is it a "krippe" a "kita" a "spielgruppe" or a "kindergarten" or something else ?

The most common 'group' size you will come across in Zurich I think is 11 with a minimum of two carers, usually 3, and possibly 4 if they have long opening hours...and the age range between 0-5 years. (Edited to add But that is for 'long day child-care'.
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Re: kindergarten: ration of teachers per children

Thank you for your reply Swisspea.
It's in canton Zurich. It's a licensed child care centre.

Well, I meant a specific what they call 'a prekindergarten class' with 15 children 14 children at ages between 2.5-3.5. On a daily basis there are between 11-7 children.


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Depends on the Canton as well as the qualifications of the carers, and it also depends on the specific age, and the licencing situation of the child care centre.

It's also a 'group' size thing rather than a 'x many kids for x many carers'...

What's the group size ? What's the age range of the specific children in the group ? Is it a "krippe" a "kita" a "spielgruppe" or a "kindergarten" or something else ?

The most common 'group' size you will come across in Zurich I think is 11 with a minimum of two carers, usually 3, and possibly 4 if they have long opening hours...and the age range between 0-5 years.
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Re: kindergarten: ration of teachers per children

So the 'group size' is bigger than 11 each day ?

It might be that the regulations change when the kids are over 3...

Also, if it's Montessori then the situation in Zurich is different, because they are allowed to start 'kindergarten' when the children are aged 3, whereas traditional places would start them at 4 - 4.5 years old...
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Re: kindergarten: ration of teachers per children

It's not Montessori.So I guess 2 teachers would be a standard (?) in this case.
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Re: kindergarten: ration of teachers per children

It depends on the operating hours - normal full-time shift lengths are 8.5 hours, and there should always be at least one teacher present, so if the centre is open more than that, or the teacher gets a lunch break then you'd expect there is a second teacher working at least part time.

Plus usually an assistant...

One qualified teacher can take up to 6-7 children, I'm not sure exactly what the number is, but if it's over 6-7 then the assistant can be counted for the ratio ?

At least, that's my understanding...if it's an employment related situation then I'd recommend that you specifically ask your management to provide you with a copy of the relevant regulations/licencing. If it's a query because of your child's enrolment, or prospective enrolment, I'd suggest addressing your question.

There's not a specific child:adult ratio, but most parents do ask that question...
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Re: kindergarten: ration of teachers per children

I worked in a preschool in Vaud - we had 15 children with one qualified member of staff and one unqualified assistant. Previously the preschool had run with two unqualified members of staff, and then the limit was 10 children (and this was because of the lack of qualified staff present, not because there were only two members of staff - i.e. no more than 10 children could be looked after by any number of unqualified staff). This was with 2.5 to 5 year olds.
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Re: kindergarten: ration of teachers per children

As said in previous posts, it is Canton specific.

I believe this thread had already covered the subject, including specific details for certain Cantons, including Zuerich.

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