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...When I was vegan and ate absolutely nothing evil, A - I put on weight since food was heavy, the pulses, ugh, oils to make it tastier, B - it wasn't cheap at all, C - I was constantly figuring out some special spices to make it palatable, D - life was not about anything else, since you have to spend effort to get your vits and minerals...
Not to mention the huge over-production of methane.
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Remember, a standard packet of sugar you get with your coffee is about 4 grams.

Can of Coke (12 oz - 355 ml) - 39 g
That is freaking scary! I am searching for Xylitol as I don't want to use sugar anymore.
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Old 03.05.2011, 15:24
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Re: Is Sugar toxic ?

I drink coke etc. rarely - and then it's in the diet form, for the benefit of my teeth mainly. I don't add sugar to tea or coffee.

Much more healthy than Xlyitol.
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Old 03.05.2011, 15:27
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Re: Is Sugar toxic ?

Some people do not tolerate xylitol well, with some people it produces even more methane than raw food diet ...It can be quite irritating to the intestinal system.
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I drink coke etc. rarely - ... I don't add sugar to tea or coffee.

Much more healthy than Xlyitol.
Same here, except that if I drink soft-drinks, I never drink the diet version.

I also like unsweetened iced-tea.

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Old 03.05.2011, 15:32
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Some people do not tolerate xylitol well, with some people it produces even more methane than raw food diet ...It can be quite irritating to the intestinal system.
In fact I have a stomach problem and my doctor (a naturopat in fact) told me I should take Xylitol. I don't tolerate raw food at all .
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Old 03.05.2011, 15:33
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That is freaking scary! I am searching for Xylitol as I don't want to use sugar anymore.

You might want to have a look at Stevia. It is available at Coop. Not sure about Migros.

Link: http://www.coop.ch/pb/site/homepage/...Lde/index.html

Wiki details on Stevia.

With its steviol glycoside extracts having up to 300 times the sweetness of sugar, stevia has garnered attention with the rise in demand for low-carbohydrate, low-sugar food alternatives. Because stevia has a negligible effect on blood glucose, it is attractive as a natural sweetener to people on carbohydrate-controlled diets.


Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia
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In fact I tried Stevia but I had a bitter taste in my mouth after that. The second time I used, I put only 2 drops and it had the same taste.
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I drink coke etc. rarely - and then it's in the diet form, for the benefit of my teeth mainly. I don't add sugar to tea or coffee.

Much more healthy than Xlyitol.
My hygienist said to watch out even with diet Coke - it's still quite corrosive even without the sugar...
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In fact I have a stomach problem and my doctor (a naturopat in fact) told me I should take Xylitol. I don't tolerate raw food at all .
I find it odd that a naturopath would suggest you fix your digestion with an artificial sweetener? That would be wtf of the day, for me, honestly.

Artificial sweetener might fix some yeast infection that your intestines might be fighting, but artificial sweetener produces often a reaction, too. Naturopath would tell you not to use any. Sweeten with honey, focus on sweet fruit if you have a sweet tooth. But a chemical solution to upset stomach, is no way naturopathic. Indigestion can be viral, could be diet, etc. Have you tried kefir? Yoghurt diet for a few weeks? I have white plain yoghurt with honey (a touch) in the morning, and honestly, my stomach has become a duck's stomach (that's what we say about people back home being able to digest anything one pop's in one's mouth ). Also, guts get unhappy if you feed yourself only on carbs and a bit of veggies (do you have enough protein, meat?).

Sorry for the detour, hope you feel a-ok asap.
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I think it is the sulphuric acid they add into Cokes.
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Phosphoric acid.

But it's rare I have any soft drink; I generally drink water.
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I find it odd that a naturopath would suggest you fix your digestion with an artificial sweetener? That would be wtf of the day, for me, honestly.

Artificial sweetener might fix some yeast infection that your intestines might be fighting, but artificial sweetener produces often a reaction, too. Naturopath would tell you not to use any. Sweeten with honey, focus on sweet fruit if you have a sweet tooth. But a chemical solution to upset stomach, is no way naturopathic. Indigestion can be viral, could be diet, etc. Have you tried kefir? Yoghurt diet for a few weeks? I have white plain yoghurt with honey (a touch) in the morning, and honestly, my stomach has become a duck's stomach (that's what we say about people back home being able to digest anything one pop's in one's mouth ). Also, guts get unhappy if you feed yourself only on carbs and a bit of veggies (do you have enough protein, meat?).

Sorry for the detour, hope you feel a-ok asap.
That is true- I have an yeast infection that is ruining my life.
Maybe I should explain better- the naturopath that I've been to is also a generalist doctor (?) but she has an alternative medicine praxis too. I went to her alternative praxis as she had a treatment I needed badly and wanted it a lot. She gave me some drops that are bitter , told me what I should eat and what I shouldn't and recommended Xylitol (this would be the best option for me). Fresh fruits and fresh veggies are not good for me. Not going into details... Funny talking about meat...(are you a mind reader?). In fact I work for a family that is vegetarian...I only eat a BIT of meat on weekends...
I was thinking to try plain yoghurt in the morning, instead of bread... but even if I eat yoghurt (not in the morning) my stomach was upset (high acidity).
Sugar makes things worse for me this is why I mentioned Xylitol.
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I should take Xylitol.
If you use stuff sweetened with xylitol, be careful not to give it to your doggies.

Xylitol can be deadly to dogs.*



* Alright, it's disputed, but there's no point risking it, is there?
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If you use stuff sweetened with xylitol, be careful not to give it to your doggies.

Xylitol can be deadly to dogs.*



* Alright, it's disputed, but there's no point risking it, is there?
I don't have dogs but it is good to know. Thank you!
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That is true- I have an yeast infection that is ruining my life.
Maybe I should explain better- the naturopath that I've been to is also a generalist doctor (?) but she has an alternative medicine praxis too. I went to her alternative praxis as she had a treatment I needed badly and wanted it a lot. She gave me some drops that are bitter , told me what I should eat and what I shouldn't and recommended Xylitol (this would be the best option for me). Fresh fruits and fresh veggies are not good for me. Not going into details... Funny talking about meat...(are you a mind reader?). In fact I work for a family that is vegetarian...I only eat a BIT of meat on weekends...
I was thinking to try plain yoghurt in the morning, instead of bread... but even if I eat yoghurt (not in the morning) my stomach was upset (high acidity).
Sugar makes things worse for me this is why I mentioned Xylitol.
Thank you.
Just made me think about my diet of just veggies and carbs I used to have, since it was so much for my guts to digest, it was painful. Proteins are easy on guts, if you can, feed on cheese and milk, quark and youghurts, dairy usually regulates guts a lot better than beans, hig celulose (dark bread,etc), buy the ocassional hot dog, steamed or boiled ham is nice, turkey, boiled egg.

Every one is so pro black bread, when in fact some people do not digest it well, kids don't for example, and can deplete body of minerals, just read about it yesterday. I would go easy on carbs, since it feeds the yeast, I would cut down things that are hard to digest (veggies, salads, beans, pulse, etc.) and just give yourself a dairy diet for a bit (if you aren't lactose intollerant, which you woul I am sure know by now). Denner/Lidl/Coop should have some nice and cheap yoghurts, but honestly, tell your family to boost your protein intake, since they are supposed to feed you as well. To starve you or give you indigestion because they have some food philosophy ain't right.

Sorry for the troubles you have, it is not nice when one is abroad. I also digest things accordingly to my cycle, hormones (eg, if you can boost your...ehm....sex life), might actually be better for you than xilitol. Well working hormones can do wonders with metabolism.

I wouldn't consume artificial sweeteners if you have indigestion, at all. I have never met an MD that would actually recommend an artificial sweetener, so odd.
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If we go completely no sugar/no process foods/no nutin, you end up running around, chasing bio, spending precious time and cash on food only, your life just has one focus, you constantly soak, sprout or shop for some new healthfood store miracle.
Ah, girl, you sound just like my new fave quote: “What surprised me most in the West is that people lose their health to make money and then lose their money to restore their health. By thinking anxiously about the future, they forget the present such that they live neither for the present nor the future. They live as if they will never die, and they die as if they have never lived.” –Dalai Lama

That said, Stevia has a wierd slightly minty taste - it is the natural flavour of the herb; it does NOT goes well with everything (like toothpaste ). It works nicely in mint tea...
How about Splenda? less natural, but quite nice. Tasteless (other than the sweetness), stable, can be used also in cooking.
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Ah, girl, you sound just like my new fave quote: “What surprised me most in the West is that people lose their health to make money and then lose their money to restore their health. By thinking anxiously about the future, they forget the present such that they live neither for the present nor the future. They live as if they will never die, and they die as if they have never lived.” –Dalai Lama

That said, Stevia has a wierd slightly minty taste - it is the natural flavour of the herb; it does NOT goes well with everything (like toothpaste ). It works nicely in mint tea...
How about Splenda? less natural, but quite nice. Tasteless (other than the sweetness), stable, can be used also in cooking.
Ooooh, I love that quote from the Dalai Lama. Must keep that in mind.

I like stevia in tea and coffee. In the Coop, you can get stevia tabs that dissolve in hot drinks, or stevia with a lot of filler that's about the same volume as sugar.

Can you even get Splenda here? I've seen it in England, but never in Switzerland - at least not near Bern...
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I think it is the sulphuric acid they add into Cokes.
Do people have difficulty in reading ingredients lists?
It contains phosphoric acid - now your stomach contains hydrochloric acid. Barf too much and that rots your teeth as well
And if you eat too much citrus fruit you will also rot your gums and enamel ...
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